Ramaphosa slammed after suggesting that prisoners should do hard labour

[The Free Radical]

This is just another reason why I'll never vote DA again.

Populist my foot.

Hard crimes deserve hard labour.

What's the point of the DA putting 3,000 new law enforcement officers on the streets in the Western Cape with the intention to arrest criminals, and then wanting them mollycoddled in prison with more rights than their victims?

I'm so sick of the DA alt-left and virtue signalling leanings these days.

The DA is the party for white liberal snowflakes and spineless jellyfish.

 

[ToxicBunny]

lol yes, because criminals have such a good credit worthiness? That is to say if they can even find a job in this country when they are released.

Oi, right now we are spitballing ideas...

We'll come up with a workable solution at some point.

 

[grok]

If I was president I would let them peddle bicycle generators 24/7..

Oh wait, cancel that, if I was president Eskom would still be the leading lectric provider in Africa

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Fark off DA...

 

[Lupus]

If they don't get paid for their labour and they don't have a choice it pretty much amounts to slavery thought, doesn't it?

Prisoners get a small allowance already.

 

[grok]

I want to paint you a picture of just how fvucked up our justice system is...

Themba kills a father of two who is also the bread winner of a family, robbing him of his R300 cellphone. His family and kids are left in limbo... No food, clothes, shelter, school, etc because government doesn't compensate victims of crime ... Themba in the meantime, he is arrested spends the next 25 years in jail, free accommodation, electricity, water, toiletries, food, clothes, education, etc... It costs taxpayers +R350/day to keep a single inmate in prison.

Somehow, prisoners must be forced to give back to the community, every day of their incarceration must feel like hell on earth. I am not for rehabilitation nonsense, I am for deterrence!

Wait, what?

If you want compensation pay an insurer like the rest of us..

 

[Fulcrum29]

I speak under correction but I think they do have such programs which are voluntary.

Yes, they do, you are correct. Ramaphosa’s proposal is to coerce the convicted prisoners into hard intensive labour.

The problem the correctional services have to endure are the unwilling inmates. Not only are our prisons at over maximum capacity they do deal with the unwanted types.

Generally, you need to work on labour programs which will involve the prisoners. Prisoners who are happy with their assigned labour, usually subdue themselves because they have something they want to do. Horses for courses, different programs for different people. The question is how you get everyone involved in something they are willing and happy to do. If you can find something accommodatable for the blocks then you are fulfilling corrections.

This isn't generally speaking, some people are just that, leeches on the society. These kinds of people need the push if you know what I mean.

 

[Ponderer]

Yes, they do, you are correct. Ramaphosa’s proposal is to coerce the convicted prisoners into hard intensive labour.

The problem the correctional services have to endure are the unwilling inmates. Not only are our prisons at over maximum capacity they do deal with the unwanted types.

Generally, you need to work on labour programs which will involve the prisoners. Prisoners who are happy with their assigned labour, usually subdue themselves because they have something they want to do. Horses for courses, different programs for different people. The question is how you get everyone involved in something they are willing and happy to do. If you can find something accommodatable for the blocks then you are fulfilling corrections.

This isn't generally speaking, some people are just that, leeches on the society. These kinds of people need the push if you know what I mean.

unwilling inmates

 

[rietrot]

Wait, what?

If you want compensation pay an insurer like the rest of us..

He isn't wrong. In a civil matter the guilty party is responsible to repay damages, why not in a criminal matter.

If you use an insurer as the middleman that's your problem and has nothing to do with the principle.

 

[Botha22]

If they don't get paid for their labour and they don't have a choice it pretty much amounts to slavery thought, doesn't it?

Food, accommodation and an allowance.

 

[rietrot]

Food, accommodation and an allowance.

That's exactly what slavery was.

 

[BeerIsNotGood...]

OH Fck off DA!

I actually agree with Ramawarawara ..... but we all know it wont happen. Criminals run amok in this country and we live behind walls and gates and bars.....and those that do get caught get a roof over their head, meals and medical attention for fokall. That wont change. Too many bleeding hearts that will take this to the highest court and argue human rights for murderers and rapists.

We already have one in the thread

 

[BeerIsNotGood...]

Prisoners get a small allowance already.

For real?

 

[BBSA]

I would love to see the piece of shyt, called Zuma, doing hard labour.

 

[Jabulani22]

If they don't get paid for their labour and they don't have a choice it pretty much amounts to slavery thought, doesn't it?

More like paying back society , in a just world the murderers and rapists/etc would be worked to death or close too .
Think of the USSR and Siberia.

 

[borro]

Prisoners need hugs!

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Unconstitutional under Ch. 2 of the Bill of Rights,





I speak under correction but I think they do have such programs which are voluntary.

Maybe they can offer an option to work back their time.

1 day off their sentence for every 2 worked, or something to that effect.

At least they'd be contributing towards the growth of the country instead of just being a drain on the fiscus...

 

[surface]

If they don't get paid for their labour and they don't have a choice it pretty much amounts to slavery thought, doesn't it?

Were only criminals made slaves back then? And are these criminals subjected to regular beatings by authorities?

 

[airborne]

Please!!!!
Make those suckers at least cover their free board and lodgings and maybe pay back a bit of their debt to society.

I always wonder why prisoners don't all do labour, it can be labour that is safe and follows normal regulations but what's the point of locking a person in a room, let the time at least be constructive for the rest of the population.

 

[Kosmik]

If they don't get paid for their labour and they don't have a choice it pretty much amounts to slavery thought, doesn't it?

Nope, they pay for their food, bed and education. Lawful people must starve and live homeless while they just lounge around? FTS.