Ramaphosa tells frustrated Soweto residents: Only the ANC can solve electricity woes

Cosmik Debris

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You can't find what? The TRC report?
I doubt there is any source for the claim that apartheid only killed 518 people while the rest got killed by the ANC. Both parts are BS claims.

There is:

Max Coleman’s authoritative book analyses all deaths due to political violence from 1948 to 1994 (Apartheid era) in South Africa and Namibia.

Suggest you start reading the sources I supply that you keep demanding.
 

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There is:

Max Coleman’s authoritative book analyses all deaths due to political violence from 1948 to 1994 (Apartheid era) in South Africa and Namibia.

Suggest you start reading the sources I supply that you keep demanding.
The book gives the numbers but the interpretations are all you as I showed you.
 

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Cosmik Debris

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The book gives the numbers but the interpretations are all you as I showed you.

Ah, so now you're not disputing the numbers like you were. Now you have to find another angle to support your virtue signalling. Where do my interpretations differ to that of the book?
 

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Ah, so now you're not disputing the numbers like you were. Now you have to find another angle to support your virtue signalling. Where do my interpretations differ to that of the book?
I showed you posts ago where I think you're taking poetic license. And where did I say I dispute the numbers? Do you have trouble comprehending what you read?
 

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No sweat, the ANC will fix the electricty problem by simply reverting to candles and parafin lamps.
African Solutions to Western Problems .... remember .... Dah!
Been done all over post-colonial Africa to great effect. Nobody is complaining except those whingy Europeans who can't use their electric fences, Nespresso machines and GHD's.
 
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Die Eden Projek is the sucessionist movement in the E/Cape.
Oranja has a new colony.



 

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Wish I could have been at the Soweto thing, Have a few questions for Ramallamadingdong.

1) Since loadshedding started has anyone been held accountable for loadshedding or is the ANC happy that the entire country has spent 13 years with only sometimes electricity and thats good enough.

2) Loadshedding has now been going on for more than 13 years. In those 13 years list what the ANC has actually done to solve the problem, bonus points if those interventions were not plagued by corruption and theft.

3) Why is a high ranking ANC member still in the same position after creating roadblocks to the electricity crisis (Looking at you Wheezy Gweezy)

4) What is the actual electricity policy? Are we joining the rest of the world in the push for greener production or are we doing what Gwezy says and going all in on coal?

5) What is being done about the Eskom debt that was caused by ANC led corruption during the Zupta years? Or is the ANC expecting the population to just keep paying more for less electricity? If that is their expectation, how does that tie in with their "Better life for all" slogan?

6) Most importantly, the ANC has been in power since long before load shedding started, nobody can dispute the fact that loadshedding is a direct result of ANC policies. Please explain how this is a "Good story to tell" or does that slogan refer to campfire and bedtime stories?
 

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Wish I could have been at the Soweto thing, Have a few questions for Ramallamadingdong.

1) Since loadshedding started has anyone been held accountable for loadshedding or is the ANC happy that the entire country has spent 13 years with only sometimes electricity and thats good enough.

2) Loadshedding has now been going on for more than 13 years. In those 13 years list what the ANC has actually done to solve the problem, bonus points if those interventions were not plagued by corruption and theft.

3) Why is a high ranking ANC member still in the same position after creating roadblocks to the electricity crisis (Looking at you Wheezy Gweezy)

4) What is the actual electricity policy? Are we joining the rest of the world in the push for greener production or are we doing what Gwezy says and going all in on coal?

5) What is being done about the Eskom debt that was caused by ANC led corruption during the Zupta years? Or is the ANC expecting the population to just keep paying more for less electricity? If that is their expectation, how does that tie in with their "Better life for all" slogan?

6) Most importantly, the ANC has been in power since long before load shedding started, nobody can dispute the fact that loadshedding is a direct result of ANC policies. Please explain how this is a "Good story to tell" or does that slogan refer to campfire and bedtime stories?

Ha.. Squirrel would have throw a whole KFC 21 Piece bucket to stop you from asking those difficult questions..
 

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No sweat, the ANC will fix the electricty problem by simply reverting to candles and parafin lamps.
African Solutions to Western Problems .... remember .... Dah!
Been done all over post-colonial Africa to great effect. Nobody is complaining except those whingy Europeans who can't use their electric fences, Nespresso machines and GHD's.
so what do you do with electricity ? By the sounds of it you don't need it.
 

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This may have been mentioned before but a doctor on SAFM said it's happened when lights go off that nursing staff have used the cell phones as torches to complete "procedures" like assisting in delivery of babies.

He had a lot to say about generators at hospitals that don't kick in, run out of diesel etc. Can you imagine the chaos?
 

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Look who's also lost the plot ...
Might be losing it, but busy gaining voters faster than the DA can plant flowers in pot holes.
 
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Wish I could have been at the Soweto thing, Have a few questions for Ramallamadingdong.

1) Since loadshedding started has anyone been held accountable for loadshedding or is the ANC happy that the entire country has spent 13 years with only sometimes electricity and thats good enough.

2) Loadshedding has now been going on for more than 13 years. In those 13 years list what the ANC has actually done to solve the problem, bonus points if those interventions were not plagued by corruption and theft.

3) Why is a high ranking ANC member still in the same position after creating roadblocks to the electricity crisis (Looking at you Wheezy Gweezy)

4) What is the actual electricity policy? Are we joining the rest of the world in the push for greener production or are we doing what Gwezy says and going all in on coal?

5) What is being done about the Eskom debt that was caused by ANC led corruption during the Zupta years? Or is the ANC expecting the population to just keep paying more for less electricity? If that is their expectation, how does that tie in with their "Better life for all" slogan?

6) Most importantly, the ANC has been in power since long before load shedding started, nobody can dispute the fact that loadshedding is a direct result of ANC policies. Please explain how this is a "Good story to tell" or does that slogan refer to campfire and bedtime stories?
I think you are making a fundamental SA mistake. The purpose of Escum and its ancillary industries was not, for the ANC regime, primarily anyway, about producing electricity, the lifeblood of the SA economy. It was, and still is, to derive maximum financial benefit for the ANC, mainly its elites personally and their fellow travellers. The same as SAA was never about flying people cost effectively; it was primarily about looting for personal gain. It's just a matter of looking at things from an ANC SA perspective.
 
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