Ramaphosa to officiate Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid launch

ShaunSA

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He will be accompanied by Trade, Industry and Competition Minister, Ebrahim Patel, KwaZulu-Natal Premier Sihle Zikalala and the Mayor of eThekwini Municipality, Mxolisi Kaunda.

Toyota going in for some big brown nosing
 

ToxicBunny

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Why would Patel be there? Its not like he can ban Toyota from serving hot food and selling slops...
 

leavingsoon

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presumably it will be the Special South African version (only sold here because it wont pass euro safety tests) where all safety features are stripped out, wind up windows, and will cost 40% more HERE than a full spec version shipped to other parts of the world !!!. They all do it
 

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Ai - Toyota is nowhere in the EV space. Hybrids are a technological dead-end. We need some real EV production in South Africa, and soon otherwise our industry is dead. We can't wait until EV's are ubiquitous before we do the switch, because other countries head-start would mean we can't compete. Especially with factories going bigger - soon new factories will the size where in most cases one factory produces as much cars as our entire local production across manufacturers put together*. We are only responsible for 0.4% of global car production -- which is a rounding error. Car OEMs can drop us easily without any impact on them.

And EV's need less parts. So we need to grab a much bigger share of the slice just to keep the secondary industry supplying components to maintain their current revenue and workforce. With so much cost concentrated in the battery, I would think that if we don't have cell and battery pack manufacturing on SA soil our industry would shrink like crazy.

This Toyota thing might be fine in the short-term but without radical ideas, investments and plans our industry will be in the toilet within 15 years.


* Stats on some factory sizes company to our entire industry:

South Africa 2020 production: 238,216 cars

Hyundai:

Ulsan - 1.4 million vehicles/year
Assan - 300,000 vehicles/year
GGM - 70,000 vehicles/year
Alabama - 370,000 vehicles/year
Brasil - 180,000 vehicles/year
Czech - 350,000 vehicles/year

Tesla (only factories in production):
California - 600,000/year
China - 450,000/year
 

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“Guided by its Vision 2035, the South African Automotive Masterplan encompasses a globally competitive and transformed industry that actively contributes to the sustainable development of South Africa’s productive economy and creates prosperity for industry stakeholders and the broader society,” the statement read.
Jeez man slow down, we know its election and everything but please show some modicum of respect in your falsehoods man.

For example where is guavamint's Eskom Vision 2000 "that fully encompasses a globally competitive and transformed industry that actively contributes to the sustainable development of South Africa’s productive economy and creates prosperity for industry stakeholders and the broader society?"

Instead we have stage 4, again..
Does the motor industry have some sort of privilege we don't know of?

Or your SAA Vision 2020, or e-Toll Vision 1998 or anything else other than the ANC's "Zupta Vision until Jesus returns"?

Words are soooo easy man, any child that can read can do them.
The difference is in the action.. and you lot have a track record for nothing but lying & stealing.
Shame on you!
 

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“I am advised that the company will seek to ramp up its projected 4 000 hybrid vehicles planned for next year if the availability of batteries improves.”
4 000? Is that all? I have no idea what is considered normal in car production quantities, but 4000 sounds very, very low.
However, he said it was about the country embracing the opportunities of a greener economy, country and continent
“The plan seeks to transform the industry across the value chain to bring in Black South Africans and young people and to deepen value addition,” said the President.
The latter does not really show the commitment to the former. Hamfisting BEEEBEEEEAAAA into this ensures it will be a lame duck. If you really want to "embrace the opportunities of a greener economy", then remove the barriers to entry and offer subsidies, not insert your connected cadres into the mix the siphon up as much cash as possible before the scheme implodes.
 
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