Reaching the end of my patience

arf9999

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Although I've been annoyed by the ridiculous speeds that I have been receiving since the end of May, I haven't contacted the call centre, mainly because I just don't have the patience to wait 20 minutes on the line just to talk to a low level call centre operative (also because for much of this time I have been out of the country - FYI: 512kbps ADSL from British Telecom - 15 Pounds per month!).

Yesterday evening I finally decided to join the campaign. So after testing my speed and receiving a fantastic 5.2kbs speed rating, I decided to call them up. I then started reading War & Peace while I waited to talk to an operative...I got to page 30[:)].

I then explained my problem to the operative. After giving my Base station number, Sig strength, RSCP, ISCP, IMEI number and user name, the operative then gave me a ticket number, told me that he was going to escalate the problem and that someone would call me on Monday. "WHAT?!? Monday - What happened to 24/7 support?" I asked. "Why can't someone contact me this evening? After all, I have dedicated my evening to calling you."

"There is nothing that we can do about speed problems on the weekend" he said. "There are no level 2 support people here. If you had no connection we could contact the on-call technicians to correct it, but for speed issues we can't."

"So, what you are saying is that speed issues aren't important enough for 24/7 support?" I asked incredulously.

"Well...um...no..it's just that there is no-one here to help. This is the procedure that we have to follow. You will be contacted on Monday."

"Am I the only person calling about this issue?"

"Um, well no, there are some users having a similar problem."

"Have they called today?"

"Yes."

"So this is a relatively widespread problem?"

"Well not widespread but there are users...."

"It seems to be a technical issue, yes?"

"Yes"

"So why the F@#$ are there no support technicians on site to sort the f@#$ing problem out??"

"Um...I can only follow procedure."

So I ranted for another ten minutes, gave him a good lesson in customer support for the new millenium and eventually gave up.

However I had the great idea of posting this onto the forum and then making a copy and sending it to Sentech for their reading pleasure.

One thing concerns me though. The IMEI number is specific to a particular modem - and Sentech can identify the connection based on this number. Sentech could, in order to stop the bad publicity, simply improve the service of those people that complain at the expense of those that do not, or that don't know better.









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arf9999

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OOOOPS. Sorry my bad: I meant 512kbps from BT....[xx(]

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<i>""There is nothing that we can do about speed problems on the weekend" he said. "There are no level 2 support people here. If you had no connection we could contact the on-call technicians to correct it, but for speed issues we can't.""</i>

What's amusing is that Sentech regularly send out canned emails to users complaining of unacceptable speeds that include something to the effect that they are moving mountains to solve the speed problems.

Obviously they arn't ...

Man this pisses me off and I'm not even a customer yet. I can't imagine whats going through the minds of those paying houndreds a month for a dysfunctional connection [}:)]

Methinks this speed problem isn't going away in a hurry ...

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by arf9999</i>
<br />... Sentech could, in order to stop the bad publicity, simply improve the service of those people that complain at the expense of those that do not, or that don't know better. ...
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Bad idea. They'd better not touch my great connection!
 

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Update: Monday 12 July.

After an early night and a good night' sleep, I eagerly awaited the call from the level 2 support at Sentech this morning. After all, I was assured that (although my speed issues weren't a priority on the weekend) on Monday someone would assist me. How surprised do you think I was by midday not to have heard anything by phone or email? Well, not very. This afternoon I was not available to take calls, but checked for messages that were left at home from Sentech....nada.

So at 17h45 when I got home I re-checked my e-mail and, not finding anything from Sentech, decided to make another call to 0860-timepassesveryslowlywhileyouareonhold. Today there is a new message on their automated system - something to the effect of "We are adressing the speed problem on MyWireless" (Phone the number and hear it for yourself).

Anyhoo, I got hold of an operative (quite quickly for a change) called Tristan and I gave him my ticket number. I then mentioned that nobody had called me as they were supposed to. He didn't seem very surprised. He then said that they were aware of a speed problem, but the call centre slaves did not know what the solution was, or when it would be effected. In fact, although he was very understanding and managed to calm me down, he didn't really have any info other than there was a problem within the network and that it did not have anything to do with available bandwidth but rather with the management of the bw.

After I mentioned that I have had cr@p speed for two months and that I was not receiving the service that I was paying for, I asked if Sentech was going to refund me for the unusable service. He suggested that I open another ticket, I agreed to do this and he said he would call me with the number. "Yeah, right", I thought to myself, "like that's going to happen." But true to his word he called me back within 15 minutes with a new (finance dept) ticket number.

So now I am the proud owner of two open tickets and continued crap speed. I will not give up though. I will send an email daily, and make a call daily to follow up. If I don't have an answer by Wednesday, I'll make it twice daily, If no reply by Friday then I'll email hourly. I have managed to get some management email addresses and will copy them on every mail.

Does anyone have an ICASA contact email? IPW? Adding a few addresses doesn't take me much time.
 

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The service you have received, while few and far between, is not totally unheard of ;-)

I too can say that Tristan does seem to make an effort. I've found he doesn't try to BS people, well not me anyways ;-)

R

Maybe his status should be change from Orc to Hobbit ?
 

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Just a thought....maybe Tristan should take over all MEDIA responses from HQ......
 

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Update no. 2.

Day 4.

After some reasonable service from Tristan at the call centre yesterday, Sentech reverts to type. I received an answer to my mail (sent on Sunday).

"Good day,

I have imputed the information provided into your ticket.
Please be advised that Sentech is dealing with speed issues
and we are working to find a resolution. As soon as we
receive an update on either the ticket or the resolution of
the issue we will contact you.

Kind Regards
Sentech Support
Carlos"

So basically: if we cannot find the problem, you can just f#ck off.




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arf9999

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Update 3.

My mailed response to Sentech:

"Dear Carlos,

Thank you for your form letter. Unfortunately it answers none of my questions.

WHEN will the service be at the proper level?
WHY is there no support for speed issues after hours?
If this is a general problem, WHY has Sentech made no attempt to contact their customers to inform them of the problem?

I am not satisfied with your reply and would like you to escalate this issue to your Customer Service Manager (possibly this is an oxymoron in the case of Sentech) as well as your Technical director.

Please note that I have another ticket open: Number 5678. This has to do with the fact that I am still being billed for full service, despite having serious bandwidth problems due to a technical problem on Sentech's side.

Another thing to note is that despite your mail being dated Monday 12 July at 11h58, my ISP only received the mail at 14h24 on Tuesday the 13th. Hey, are you using MyWireless to connect to the internet too? That would explain the 26 and a half hours to deliver an email from one South African mail server to another.

Best Regards,

Andrew"

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I have never been to the small claims court, and I have decided, that this is the way to go, and it won't cost me any money.

I have by email already given the CEO notification to that effect, however, tomorrow, I will refresh my memory about it, when I can get decent internet access, and I will then get my house in order, and formally notify them. I can assure you that the CEO will be going to sit in the small claims court, with me, so that I can get my 2 months of lost connection fees back from them. Even if I do not win, it will be a pleasure wasting their time, just as my time has been wasted over the 2 months
 

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Robone</i>
<br />I have never been to the small claims court, and I have decided, that this is the way to go, and it won't cost me any money.

I have by email already given the CEO notification to that effect, however, tomorrow, I will refresh my memory about it, when I can get decent internet access, and I will then get my house in order, and formally notify them. I can assure you that the CEO will be going to sit in the small claims court, with me, so that I can get my 2 months of lost connection fees back from them. Even if I do not win, it will be a pleasure wasting their time, just as my time has been wasted over the 2 months
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Need to speak to you asap. james.mclaren@gmail.com

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Hahaha - good one.

Guys, you all know that I have been very verbal towards the call centre on these forums but what has happened in the last 2 months has sorta changed my mind about the poor okes at the call centre. How should they help us in a meaningful way when Sentech Senior Management tell us to buff off every day?

So guys of the call centre, if you are reading this, I am thankful that you okes at least answer the calls. The other day I phoned Telkom and 5 times in a row, she picked up the phone and just put it on the desk - I could hear her having a chat to her mate in the cubicle next door. That way, the call monitoring software will not pick up any irregularites.

Sorry we cr*p on you guys but it's just that we are frustrated as hell. People always shoot the messenger!

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Scarface</i>
<br />Sorry we cr*p on you guys but it's just that we are frustrated as hell. People always shoot the messenger!
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Zigackly. Shouting at the wekas doesn't help at all. The real problem lies with the generals pushing the cannon fodder into the front line. And meanwhile they're not even prepared to put their heads above the parapets otherwise they'd get shot off (like poor Marcel did, alas).

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Update. Day 5.

After having f###-all connection all night, I called the call centre again this morning to follow up on my tickets and to ask what was going on (Connection- but no send or receive).

Spoke to Tommy, who told me that there was a problem overnight but it had been resolved. (This call was made at about 9am). I asked about the lack of response to my open ticket, and got the usual "we are following procedure and have escalated it to level two, who will contact you"

I explained that I was not satisfied and demanded to speak to the Customer Service Manager. He assured me that he would refer the ticket to the CSM. I gave him my cellphone number and he added it to the ticket. I hung up. Time passed....by 18h30 no call from the CSM.

Got home and checked my connection. Shocking - not even 10kbps. Phoned call centre and spoke to Charles. Told Charles to get the CSM on the line....surprise, surprise "He's gone home". Told Charles to get hold of him at home and get him to call me. "ummm I can't do that"

"If there is an emergency, do you have a way to reach him?"
"Well, yes"
"Well this is an emergency. If you do not tell him to contact me, I will be at fourways golf office park tomorrow morning to see your MD. I don't think that he would want that."
"um...ok but I can't promise he'll call you"

--Time is now 20h50 - No call yet. Looks like I'm going to Fourways tomorrow.






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Vertice

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i'm saying this again.

maybe we should mobilize en masse.

someone must have contacts in the press...

they can safely ignore one person, but they can't ignore 5 or 10 , witha journalist and a photographer in tow.

think bowling for columbine.
 

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keep us posted ok?

think about it guys, we are all pretty technically competent and some of us will consider ourselves more knowledgeable than the call centre dudes. Now all we actually call for is to get info that is not available to us but more likely to them.

Think about this, if you were going to work there - what would you do? Say "yes it is crap" over the phone? Or refuse the job? I personally would not work for Telkom or Sentech knowing their upper management policies unless they paid me a sh*tload for my experience level. I think the problem is that the call centre dudes dont have mywireless at home. It would be the only solution to the problem. So if you are reading this Sentech, hire some forumites as call centre people (oh, understand that you will have to pay pretty well)

All that said, the call centre people DO still have a choice to treat you like a moron and lie to you OR to tell the truth. Thats all we want - the truth. I think it is fair and justified to bitch about them when they are obviously lying and trying to get you off the phone.
 

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Update Thursday

Received a mail at 2am this morning (sent at 21h30) so it only took 4.5 hours to deliver.

Pretty much same message:
"we know there's a problem, we're working on it, we'll get back to you blah, blah"

No call from a Customer Service Manager though.

-A

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wtf?

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by arf9999</i>
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I have imputed the information provided into your ticket.
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im·pute ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-pyt)
tr.v. im·put·ed, im·put·ing, im·putes
To relate to a particular cause or source; attribute the fault or responsibility to: imputed the rocket failure to a faulty gasket; kindly imputed my clumsiness to inexperience.
To assign as a characteristic; credit: the gracefulness so often imputed to cats. See Synonyms at attribute.




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arf9999

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Jeez, the guy could write in Japanese if he'd just get the f#$king problem fixed. His vocabulary is the least of my worries...

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