Renewal of Car license without paying traffic fines?

LazyLion

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Clarification on vehicle license discs:

Licensing authorities cannot refuse to take payment for a vehicle license.
Even if they refuse to give you a disc, they have to take your money for the vehicle license.

There are only a few valid reasons for denying you a disc.
Valid Reason No.1: Your vehicle License fees are in arrears.
Valid Reason No.2: There is a warrant out for your arrest.
Valid Reason No.3: Your vehicle is unroadworthy.
Valid Reason No.4: You have other vehicles that are unlicensed.
Valid Reason No.5: There is an AARTO enforcement order against your name.

For any one of the above scenarios, you are still entitled to pay your vehicle license fees on time.
Payment of license fees means your vehicle is licensed (and also insured if you have insurance).
Failure to display your license disc is a contravention though, even if you are licensed.
A traffic officer may issue you with a fine for not displaying your vehicle license disc.
The government will most likely seek to change the law regarding issuing of license discs.
But any such change will be subject to judicial review. In the past the courts have been very reluctant to allow the government such powers.
In the past the withholding of license discs has been found to be unconstitutional. The courts see it as illegal to withhold a disc for which a motorist has offered payment.
You will still receive your notification in the post that your license payment is due.
You should ALWAYS go and pay your vehicle license as soon as possible.
You should still offer to pay your vehicle license fee even if your disc is withheld.
If your vehicle license disc is withheld for an invalid reason as to speak to a supervisor.
Ask to speak to the licensing officer if your license disc is withheld.
The R114 form from AARTO actually states that it is illegal to withhold your license disc.

http://www.jp-sa.org/LicenceDiscs.asp
 

LazyLion

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BTW, you might have many AARTO or Criminal Procedure Act fines... but they will only withhold your License Disc if you have an AARTO Enforcement Order or a Warrant our for your arrest!

AARTO covers Johannesburg and Pretoria and the Criminal Procedure Act covers Ekurhuleni and other parts of Gauteng.
 

scudsucker

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I know that I have a number of fines outstanding which I don't pay out of principle as I have never received a single fine through registered mail as is required by AARTO.

I renewed my car licence at the Post Office 2 weeks ago with no issues in the slightest.

Can you explain your logic here? You don't pay fines out of principle but you do pay for a licence?

If you are going to break the law in one way why uphold it in another?
 

OMB

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Can you explain your logic here? You don't pay fines out of principle but you do pay for a licence?

If you are going to break the law in one way why uphold it in another?

he's not breaking the law, he's waiting for the law to follow the law, you are not obliged to pay AARTO notices unless they have been issued according to the law which they haven't been.

That's why JMPD just had to write off 6 million fines worth R1.35 billion
 

Brenden_E

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Yea my wife has a few outstanding fines that we never received in post but I did see them on payfine. If you look at the photos there's something wrong with almost all of them. Another car overlapping, changing lanes, etc etc

Simply ignored them and nothing has come of it.
 
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