Retarded ostrich extends term in office....again...and again... and again.

[Nod]

Cutting their power could even hurt us more than them

SA Institute of International Affairs

The problem with Zim is, you can invest money in Zim (and get huge returns), but can you get your money out again? It's like lending money to family, you feel obliged, but you just know it was a gift.

 

[OhGats]

somehow I doubt of cutting power would harm bob and his cronies, you can bet that he has adequate stocks of generators, petrol, pics of himself wearing various crowns, fancy German limo's and overpriced houses. The people that usually get hurt are already at rock bottom and to them not much will change. Bob may be the big problem but he has a whole queue of cronies and buddies who are patiently waiting for him to shuffle off this mortal coil so that they can enrich themselves and ruin the country even more and make it the biggest basket case in Africa. .

 

[MyDraadloos]

To kill the snake you must cut of it's head ...........

If the TAG can raise R 50 000 to fight Telkom, why can't we raise R 100 000 to hire an assassin ............ I'm sure TIAL would gladly go ninja Bob for free.

www.killbob.com

 

[Nod]

They've been trying to do that since the 80's. He is slower now, so it might work

 

[MyDraadloos]

They've been trying to do that since the 80's. He is slower now, so it might work

I don't think anyone has made a serious effort. Just distract the security guards with a bag of mielie meal and bust cap in Bob's ass.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

The lack of action by the AU and South Africa shows their complete indifference to what is happening in Zimbabwe and indirectly, shows support for what the baboon is doing.

No wonder most people regard 'African democracy' as an oxymoron.

 

[kilo39]

Can we please refrain from using words like Baboon, monkey, and whatever else exists in the racist lexicon.

baboon = buffoon (without nearly the racist connotations.)

 

[MyDraadloos]

Can we please refrain from using words like Baboon, monkey, and whatever else exists in the racist lexicon.

baboon = buffoon (without nearly the racist connotations.)

You obviously have not looked at any pictures of him recently ; the resemblance is uncanny and his aptitude for monkey business would make it a very apt analogy.

Nothing racist about it ........ he is a baboon.

 

[IamCanadian]

How is Zimbabwe one of South Africa's greatest shames, it is a sovereign country, not a province of SA - how we handle the matter, now that's another story - I think the African Union with their Peer Review Mechanism should step in here and put a stop to this - Mugabe is giving them opportunity after opportunity to prove themselves and they are just not grabbing it

And the shame continued to the tune of US$500 million:

http://www.zwnews.com/issuefull.cfm?ArticleID=12461

More of your taxes going to help Mugarbage and his gang go on shopping trips and to prop up his sick regime.

xtermin8or, what about all the loans from South Africa?

 

[Bageloo]

You obviously have not looked at any pictures of him recently ; the resemblance is uncanny and his aptitude for monkey business would make it a very apt analogy.

Nothing racist about it ........ he is a baboon.

Now that you mentioned it...I can see it very clearly.
Seriously now, do you think it matters who is at the helm? Also I don't see how the shame in Zim gets to be atributed to SA. The people of Zim scatered around the world need to go back home during election and vote the ZANUPF out of government. Unlike the people inside ZIM they are immune to BOB's propaganda because they get a different view of their country.

 

[IamCanadian]

Now that you mentioned it...I can see it very clearly.
Seriously now, do you think it matters who is at the helm? Also I don't see how the shame in Zim gets to be atributed to SA. The people of Zim scatered around the world need to go back home during election and vote the ZANUPF out of government. Unlike the people inside ZIM they are immune to BOB's propaganda because they get a different view of their country.

It's hard to vote when you are getting beaten up by the regime:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7960861518151097559&q=zimbabwe

 

[Tassidar]

Personally, I think that Zimbabwe is very close to a peoples' revolution, similar to the Feb 1917 revolution in Russia. The problem with these things is that they are very difficult to predict. One small incident can trigger a revolution after many much larger events have done nothing. It is a matter of the public reaching a point of all being fed up.

Funnily enough, the Rhodesian SAS nearly pulled of an assassination of Mugabe at the time of the Lancaster house talks (before Mugabe was in power), however they were pretty much forced into abandoning the plan because of the Brits. (Source: P. Stiff; See You in November).

I believe little of rumours of Mugabe having a strong army. They are undisciplined to say the least, and are schooled at population intimidation, not warefare. For instance, Mugabe's infamous 5th brigade was used to commit genocide on the Sindebele population (Sindebele = minority mainly living in South; Shona = majority mainly living in North). The Zim army has hardly distinguished itself in places like the DRC (Source: P Stiff; Cry Zimbabwe; own opions).

(OT) I leave for Zimbabwe tomorrow for a three week holiday. I will be interested to see for myself what it is like there. (/OT)

 

[telkomsuig]

I agree with SA's stance on ZIM. The people should overthrow the government themselves if thye have sufficient support which I doubt they have. Most people in Zim it seems will do whatever the big chief of the tribe says.

 

[kilo39]

I agree with SA's stance on ZIM. The people should overthrow the government themselves if thye have sufficient support which I doubt they have. Most people in Zim it seems will do whatever the big chief of the tribe says.

(because they are intimidated and have no resources to form an alternate view.)

Amazing how atrocities are simply excused. There is a standard (decided over 100's if not thousands of years, recommended way, wrong way.) It evolves (hopefully towards betterment, though that is not necessarily the evidence.) The rest of the 'free world' said the zim elections were not free. The free world said Mugabe's intimidation of his own people is wrong. The free world has imposed sanctions on zim (foreign travel for instance) due to their judgement of his actions against his own state and people. But south africa pats him on the back (the elections were free and fair, lets support his despot rule as much as possible.)

What ever happened to the quiet drink around the fire? Whatever happened to "constructive engagement." Whatever happened to "My friend..."

Instead we have a policy of appeasement and agreement. The peeps in africa are getting sick of the double dealing of their governments (except in those places where the peeps don't see it, 'cause they can't.)

And what does this say of Mbeki's attitude to his own people (or his assessment of the correctness of the 'free world?')

 

[Sneeky]

How is Zimbabwe one of South Africa's greatest shames, it is a sovereign country, not a province of SA

Its just another tangled web woven by the SA government.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't scenario.
Our shame though, is our silence!

A government that fought for equal rights for everyone seems rather content with a dictator on their doorstep. That is shameful.
Thabo has argued that their is nothing he can really do as they are a sovereign state, this is only partly correct.

The SA government can put significant political pressure on MadBob and be a lot more vocal in condemning the antics of Zanu-PF, but they just don't.

Business interests and struggle buddy mentality outweigh moral responsibility.
It's a chapter out of the US book of foreign policy.

Mugabe is still seen as a hero on this continent by his peers, and this view will not change until prominent african leaders stand up and take him to task.
Thabo, considering his initiatives, the ANC's history and South Africa's role on this continent,, should be number 1 in that que but he isnt.
Shameful.

Now lets ask ourselves who the real ostriches are burying their heads in the sand? MadBob and Zanu-PF or the leaders of the neighbouring states?

Cutting power and all that stuff is useless and counterproductive, just makes it worse for Zim's neighbours.

 

[IamCanadian]

Zim tortures political prisoners/

How is Zimbabwe one of South Africa's greatest shames, it is a sovereign country, not a province of SA - how we handle the matter, now that's another story - I think the African Union with their Peer Review Mechanism should step in here and put a stop to this - Mugabe is giving them opportunity after opportunity to prove themselves and they are just not grabbing it

Exterminator,

Good name to have when talking about your support for Mugarbage, since he is an exterminator of people himself.

Try to get real dude.

I don't suppose you will respond to this.

The South African government's support of Mugabe's regime even when human rights abuses were evident was worrying, he said.

"Where there has been evidence of abuse, we have not seen South Africa speak out. We don't see any critical response even on clear human rights abuses."

http://iafrica.com/news/africannews/522189.htm

The BOTTOM LINE is this:

If South Africa continues to support this moron to the north then South Africa loses it's moral high ground. (That is if the current ANC government understands what "moral high ground" means.)

Sadly, support for Mugarbage will not end thus putting South Africa in a very difficult position. If it continues then SA's best allies will likely be North Korea, Cuba, Iran, Syria and Venezuela. Nice company.

What say you?

 

[Paul_S]

Sadly, support for Mugarbage will not end thus putting South Africa in a very difficult position. If it continues then SA's best allies will likely be North Korea, Cuba, Iran, Syria and Venezuela. Nice company.

You forgot China and Russia.

 

[kilo39]

Actually I think xtermin8or is Mbeki (he is seldom here!) Drops in occasionally and imparts his wisdom then poof gone (exactly like Mbeki.)

 

[nocilah]

Zim still has a very potent Defence Force

potency is a far cry from efficiency, something i know africa will NEVER get right as history has proved over and over and over.

 

[IamCanadian]

Actually I think xtermin8or is Mbeki (he is seldom here!) Drops in occasionally and imparts his wisdom then poof gone (exactly like Mbeki.)

Now that was funny. LOL