Return land to restore people’s dignity, says Ramaphosa

[Ponderer]

“Land must be returned. Our people were stripped of our land,” said Ramaphosa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

Yeah - its okay for blacks ("our people") to have slaughtered each other so as to posses/occupy each others land, but it is for some or other reason wrong if whites (not "our people") do that to blacks ("our people").

What a load of BS.

 

[Ponderer]

see to it that there's redress, reparations and land reform.

Does that include all South Africans, or does it only apply to whites.

 

[Jopie Fourie]

Cyril is a lying communist. Not all people's land was taken in the first place. Only those who had land before and proof of it should get it. The rest of the people who wants land, but never owned it before, should get nothing. Taking land from anyone and giving it to those who did not own land is criminal. It is theft.

 

[konfab]

Yeah - its okay for blacks ("our people") to have slaughtered each other so as to posses/occupy each others land, but it is for some or other reason wrong if whites (not "our people") do that to blacks ("our people").

What a load of BS.

It was wrong when blacks did it to blacks.
It was wrong when whites did it to blacks.
It is wrong when blacks do it to whites.

 

[namzsteve]

People don't need land to have dignity. They need a country that is growing and gives them opportunities to improve their lot in life.

That's the thing the leaders and most citizens can't grasp

 

[Excalibur]

Does that include all South Africans, or does it only apply to whites.

All South Africans but especially those who benefited from the plunder and dispossession of colonialism and Apartheid.

 

[clickingbuttons]

It was wrong when blacks did it to blacks.

That's the thing the leaders and most citizens can't grasp

The leaders have grasped very well what to say to win themselves votes.

 

[clickingbuttons]

All South Africans but especially those who benefited from the plunder and dispossession of colonialism and Apartheid.

Do you have a list of these beneficiaries you speak of?

 

[Ponderer]

That's the thing the leaders and most citizens can't grasp

Oh - the leaders grasp that alright - its the majority of dumbass citizens that don't grasp what its about.
Its about thieving politicians.

 

[ToxicBunny]

All South Africans but especially those who benefited from the plunder and dispossession of colonialism and Apartheid.

Who specifically are those who benefited?

 

[BBSA]

All South Africans but especially those who benefited from the plunder and dispossession of colonialism and Apartheid.

You do know the Zulus did a lot of plunder and dispossession, right?

In fact most people in South Africa are descendents from colonizers.

 

[clickingbuttons]

Who specifically are those who benefited?

The government will be given the right to proclaim who benefitted and who will be open to EWC. No evidence needed just their divine proclamation

 

[Ponderer]

All South Africans but especially those who benefited from the plunder and dispossession of colonialism and Apartheid.

And what about the time before colonialism and Apartheid?
Why only the time from colonialism and Apartheid?

 

[Jopie Fourie]

And what about the time before colonialism and Apartheid?
Why only the time from colonialism and Apartheid?

Because, if you go back, black people will be entitled to absolutely nothing. This does not suite the narrative.

 

[Iwojima]

All South Africans but especially those who benefited from the plunder and dispossession of colonialism and Apartheid.

I'm more concerned about the one's doing the plundering at the moment rather than the grandchildren of long dead apartheid boogiemen.

 

[konfab]

That's the thing the leaders and most citizens can't grasp

Most citizens grasp it perfectly.


The problem in South Africa is that the government isn't democratically elected.

There was 17.6 million votes cast in the last election, out of 26.7 million registered voters.
The percentage of the population that can vote is 35.9 million.

9.2 million eligible voters are not registered for the 2019 elections

Despite an increase in the number of registered voters, the proportion of voters who registered for the 2019 elections is down substantially from 2014.

businesstech.co.za

2019 South African general election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thus the makeup of parliament of South Africa is determined by about 49% of the electorate, in other words, the people in parliament are not representative of the majority of people in South Africa.

 

[DreamKing]

when you force someone to give you something that you never have before .....

that is called "robbery".

 

[Quicks]

I was wondering why the Rand took a dip again, this guy is just as useless as the one's before him!

 

[Jopie Fourie]

I was wondering why the Rand took a dip again, this guy is just as useless as the one's before him!

Even worse. South Africa has seen the biggest economic decline under Ramaphosa. South Africa has seen the biggest outflow of international investment capital under Ramaphosa. South Africa has seen the biggest unemployment rate in recent times under Ramaphosa. South Africa has seen the biggest flight out the country of tax payers under Ramaphosa. South Africa has seen the biggest drop in tax revenue under Ramaphosa. South Africa has the biggest crime rate every under Ramaphosa. He has no control over his government or political party, both institutions are a free for all and run by fear and political murders. South Africa has never been this divided under any president ever before.

Cyril Ramaphosa is the worst president in the history of South Africa, and please, do not come here and tell me he inherited this from Zuma. This is the biggest fallacy.

 

[Ponderer]

I was wondering why the Rand took a dip again, this guy is just as useless as the one's before him a politician.

Fixed.