- Jul 22, 2003
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Thats the problem there. Fresh interns that are learning are a net cost to the business , and they won't add value. What they cost as interns needs to be added to the cost of the tuition.He told MyBroadband that they are working on a funding model where a corporate partner can sponsor a student for R100,000 over two years.
Students will start working as interns in year one, which will add value to them and the companies they work for.
I think this will be the biggest problem, train people who are just interested in having a jol. It would work better in a school environment. It's shocking how many schools are unequipped for IT. Even being from the supposedly "advantaged" neighbourhood our IT teacher was not really a programmer.They seem to have good intentions, but I think the free model might attract loads of people who don't really have an interest in the subject. I've personally seen a major percentage of paying students who have zero interest in learning.
Regardless, I honestly hope their project is a success.
This is the next wave, back in the late 1990s they had the MCSE hype wave to ride, now they can't ride any of those waves to sell their overpriced "qualitay education products" to so they come with this tack.Why do we want so many crappy developers in the market (and I say crappy because the reality of the situation is that most of them will be...it is what it is)
Tertiary education doesn't produce a lot of good developers either. Most of the worlds good developers are self taught in some way. This is quite a noble idea to expose people that would otherwise not be exposed to it. I just think their focus is wrong.What is it with the world's sudden interest in getting everybody from primary school children to the underprivileged masses to code. Why do we want so many crappy developers in the market (and I say crappy because the reality of the situation is that most of them will be...it is what it is)
That is the fail. Can't see many companies here going for what is essentially a mass bursary scheme. With a server and dumb terminals it can be reduced to a few thousand per person. Venue and electricity can be sponsored in a setting such as a school.I think it's s wonderful idea. With NFSAS running out of funds for students and leaving them stranded in the middle of their degrees or diplomas, this is a welcome relief. Competition for small colleges too. Though R50k per student sounds rather steep. How did they get to those figures? I'm assuming the kids won't graduate with industry recognised certificates such as MCSD?
What are the qualifying criteria if neither financial nor academic?
WeThinkCode_ applies neither academic nor financial restrictions, which means that no one will be prevented from entering the training programme.
.There will be a strong focus on under-privileged students who cannot afford to attend traditional training institutions.
The problem is, people are making them believe that anyone can code. Sure. Anyone can. But like you say, 90% will be schit at it. To code is not to write a letter, it takes a kind logical thinking and an interest in solving problems, which are some skills which is especially lacking in this country.Just to clarify - I'm not saying all if them will be crap. The reality is that we are sitting with a whole lot of crappy talentless developers already who really don't give damn about the quality of their work.
Now if formal education can produce that (ignoring the 90% that dropped out and never even made it to graduation) then you can't help but wonder what free education to the masses will give us.
+10The problem is, people are making them believe that anyone can code. Sure. Anyone can. But like you say, 90% will be schit at it. To code is not to write a letter, it takes a kind logical thinking and an interest in solving problems, which are some skills which is especially lacking in this country.
Yeah. This doesn't make sense. Surely they would be able to do it for a fraction of the cost?R50k is keeping costs to a minimum? Oh I see some bitten apples in there.