Rhema church founder Ray McCauley dies at 75

Calkem said:
It's not too late, you can start your own satanic "church" and make billions like Markus Jooste, sacrifice children and blow your brains out in the end.
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None of those things interest me and like I said, I'm just too honest.
 
Calkem said:
It's not too late, you can start your own satanic "church" and make billions like Markus Jooste, sacrifice children and blow your brains out in the end.
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why does it have to be satanic, it can just be the usual money grabbing "evangelical" church.
as for sacrificing children - that is a patent held by the holy bible in the names of abraham and isaac.
 
Grant said:
why does it have to be satanic, it can just be the usual money grabbing "evangelical" church.
as for sacrificing children - that is a patent held by the holy bible in the names of abraham and isaac.
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Firstly, he can make billions no evangelical church has ever made the billions that Steinhoff made.

Uhm, sorry but you wring. How can be a patent when Abraham never sacrificed Isaac, maybe read the Good Book for yourself, because of Isaac was never sacrificed lol
 
Calkem said:
Firstly, he can make billions no evangelical church has ever made the billions that Steinhoff made.
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Was Steinhoff a church?

Uhm, sorry but you wring. How can be a patent when Abraham never sacrificed Isaac, maybe read the Good Book for yourself, because of Isaac was never sacrificed lol
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Sure, but do you adhere to all the commandments? There are far more than 10 if you read Leviticus. If you do, when was the last time the females of your family gave pigeons or turtles to the priest to sacrifice after menstruation? Hey, it's your bible... Read the Good Book for yourself,
 
I do recommend that you ask someone you know from a church or a church father you think you can get along with to help you correctly interprete the Bible in the meanings, purpose, that specifically why they are scholars who help the simple men find the correct expression of the texts. You could even take a short course. Don't worry you won't have to sacrifice your son. @Grant

It will be beneficial to you, there is hundreds of atheists who read it and thousands of other Abrahamic Faith scholars who read it, there is great moral laws and conduct you would learn, it's best to know what you talking about instead of having this Montessori eisegesis understanding.
 
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Cosmik Debris said:
Sure, but do you adhere to all the commandments? There are far more than 10 if you read Leviticus. If you do, when was the last time the females of your family gave pigeons or turtles to the priest to sacrifice after menstruation? Hey, it's your bible... Read the Good Book for yourself
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I love how atheists don't know the difference between moral law and ceremonial law.

Running to Leviticus, a book that covers Jewish ceremonial law for non-Gentiles, when speaking to a Christian, is the go-to sign that they don't know what they're talking about.

But you do you, angsty scorned man shaking his fist at the sky. God still loves you.
 
Calkem said:
I do recommend that you ask someone you know from a church or a church father you think you can get along with to help you correctly interprete the Bible in the meanings,
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Is your bible literal and are the commandments recommendations or are they commandments? Can you choose which to obey?

If your bible has literal and figurative passages, can you give me a list of which is which before I approach any church so that they cannot backtrack and claim a disputed passage is now figurative because it doesn't suit them? I have often found this happens during a discussion. As soon as the bible quoting adherent gets pushed into a corner, they state that part of the Bible is figurative.

Calkem said:
It will be beneficial to you, there is hundreds of atheists who read it and thousands of other Abrahamic Faith scholars who read it, there is great moral laws and conduct you would learn, it's best to know what you talking about instead of having this Montessori eisegesis understanding.
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I have read the Bible completely. I know it well enough to be able to argue it far better than most religious adherents who cherry pick the passages they like and ignore the passages they don't like.

NR7 said:
I love how atheists don't know the difference between moral law and ceremonial law.
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What makes you think I'm atheist? Can you state which laws in the bible are ceremonial and which are moral?

NR7 said:
Running to Leviticus, a book that covers Jewish ceremonial law for non-Gentiles, when speaking to a Christian, is the go-to sign that they don't know what they're talking about.
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Yet Exodus is acceptable but Leviticus isn't? Who gave you the right to decide?

Your Jesus was a Jew. Does the New Testament make the Old Testament irrelevant? If so, why do you obey the 10 Commandments?

NR7 said:
But you do you, angsty scorned man shaking his fist at the sky. God still loves you.
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Since when does a logical argument mean the person is angry?
 
Calkem said:
Firstly, he can make billions no evangelical church has ever made the billions that Steinhoff made.

Uhm, sorry but you wring. How can be a patent when Abraham never sacrificed Isaac, maybe read the Good Book for yourself, because of Isaac was never sacrificed lol
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uhm sorry

what is your obsession with steinhoff
what has steinhoff to do with mccauley & rhema ??
when did steinhoff / jooste sacrifice children ?
 
Grant said:
oh really

rhema,
zion christian church
hillsong (aka pedo central)
.
.


psst
steinhoff is not a church - they never traded in false hope and promise of eternal life
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You guys fail to follow the trail, lol....

Are you guys possessed? Calm down and READ .... Pay attention here.....

1. Smugs said when he was broke and unemployed he thought about starting a Christian church to make money

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2. I said he can start a Satanic church and sacrifice children and make lots of money like Jooste, who was the CEO and head of Steinhoff.

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"Steinhoff is not a church, Steinhoff is not a church!!!! No you wrong"


Children!!.... :ROFL:
 
Calkem said:
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in other news:

WATCH: Founders of satanic church say they stand for freedom​

The founders of South Africa’s first satanic church are adamant they do not worship the devil, make human sacrifices, have orgies or target children.

The Daily Voice spoke to co-founders, Riaan Swiegelaar,39, and Adri Norton, 32, who say their beliefs focus on satisfying their inner desires, while freedom and personal choice is the foundation of Satanism
Their website states: “We don’t spend our lives living in guilt, or waiting for someone to punish us for who we are. We accept all consequences of our actions. We are the only ones whose forgiveness we need. Hail Yourself! Hail Satan!”
According to them, they do not worship a deity, but exalt Satan as being the prime example of carnality, pride and enlightenment.

Adri says there's a difference between Satanism and devil worship.
They also believe that one is born a Satanist, and new members are hand-picked by their seven-member council and they do not allow anyone younger than 18 to join.

“A lot of people think we are going to convert you into Satanists. We don’t do that, we know that Satanists are born. You can’t be converted into a Satanist from another religion.”
The duo says they are the voices for “thousands of Satanists” in South Africa and have been left “horrified” by the public’s “misconception” that Satanists perform ritualistic sacrifices.

Instead they say their bible, written by Anton LaVey, speaks about the preservation of all life.
Riaan says their journey began four years ago when he first read the Satanic bible and it resonated with him.
He started meeting fellow believers on social media and when he met Adri, they decided to open a church in the hopes of creating awareness and educating people.

“There is no high priest, there is no cult, a cult has a leader,” explains Riaan.
“I am the presiding reverend, and Adri is the spokesperson.
“When Adri got involved, we had this conversation about how Satanism is misrepresented. Riaan explains their rituals and services do not involve any sacrifices.
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Grant said:
so where is steinhoff and jooste sacrifiing children ?
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It's right there in the video, what the hell is wrong with you?

I bet you didn't watch the video and ask "where is Steinhoff and Jooste sacrificing children".

It's there in the video and you had to ask such a stupid question. Really 😂 😂 😂

Grant said:
in other news:

WATCH: Founders of satanic church say they stand for freedom​


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Are you retarded?

That article is from Four (4) years ago the video is from 4 months ago, Riaan and Adri have since both long left the Satanic occult and have come to Christ (Praise God!) and the other founder Jooste.... Well we both know where he is. If you watched the video you will hear Riaan categorically states that he spread propaganda when he was in the occult, that was his job.



Come on Grant.... Lol
 
Calkem said:
Are you retarded?

That article is from Four (4) years ago the video is from 4 months ago, Riaan and Adri have since both long left the Satanic occult and have come to Christ (Praise God!) and the other founder Jooste.... Well we both know where he is. If you watched the video you will hear Riaan categorically states that he spread propaganda when he was in the occult, that was his job.



Come on Grant.... Lol
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They swapped one cult for another.

And they're spreading another form of propaganda now, now he is a special kid coz he is an individual attention-seeking whore in the church that sticks out coz he used to be a "satanist" who, news flash, also isn't real.

Just sheep.
 
Calkem said:
It's right there in the video, what the hell is wrong with you?

I bet you didn't watch the video and ask "where is Steinhoff and Jooste sacrificing children".

It's there in the video and you had to ask such a stupid question. Really 😂 😂 😂
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You post a video over an hour long with no timestamp to what you're referencing and then blame the reader for not watching it? Get real man, this is exactly how Christians argue dishonestly.
 
SNUFF FILM COMMERCIAL said:
They swapped one cult for another.

And they're spreading another form of propaganda now, now he is a special kid coz he is an individual attention-seeking whore in the church that sticks out coz he used to be a "satanist" who, news flash, also isn't real.

Just sheep.
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Also probably realised there is more money in christianity than in satanism.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
You post a video over an hour long with no timestamp to what you're referencing and then blame the reader for not watching it? Get real man, this is exactly how Christians argue dishonestly.
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Look it all very simple, if you do not follow the evidence in front of you you can not claim ignorance, it's no excuse. If you don't watch the whole thing, excuse yourself, I don't have to give time stamps.

I would not shout my mouth off on something I haven't made myself familiar with.
 
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