Richard’s Bay: Parents left horrified by students’ “demonic” artworks / AKA The demonic art thread

[Jabulani22]

Jabulani is also huge fan of questioning mainstream beliefs and being open minded, you should read his opinions on the holocaust. the guy is clearly open to new info, it's important that we share the factual info of christianity with him

Dont believe i ever voiced an opinion on the holocaust , perhaps a more subtle approach to character assasination would be preferable .
Do try again.

 

[GreGorGy]

My feelings arent hurt , i just want equality of derision re: religions.

Then go ahead a deride a religion of your choice. Be part of the solution!

 

[daveza]

Fair enough, the Rastas and Zoroastrians have had it far too easy here.

 

[Jabulani22]

Then go ahead a deride a religion of your choice. Be part of the solution!

Lol , nah i avoid it myself but those who do it to Christians should also do it to the others if they wish to partake , no use doing half a job is it ?
Or maybe its just best to stop picking on easy/all targets ?

 

[STS]

My feelings arent hurt , i just want equality of derision re: religions.

Cool, feel free to join in any time. next week there will be a muslim thread and a week after that a jewish thread. Today it is christianity

 

[STS]

Dont believe i ever voiced an opinion on the holocaust , perhaps a more subtle approach to character assasination would be preferable .
Do try again.

I don't want to derail the thread from the obvious flaws of christianity, but you have definitely voiced your concerns over the numbers of the holocaust and definitely didn't counter the other arguments in that thread, since you value equality so much

 

[Jabulani22]

Cool, feel free to join in any time. next week there will be a muslim thread and a week after that a jewish thread. Today it is christianity

See post 426 .

 

[Jabulani22]

I don't want to derail the thread from the obvious flaws of christianity, but you have definitely voiced your concerns over the numbers of the holocaust and definitely didn't counter the other arguments in that thread, since you value equality so much

Did i call numbers into question or did i simply say that investigation should be allowed by anyone or group ?
Cmon now dont do me a disservice , go edit your post to say you wish to condemn me as an antisemite because you have no counters to my points.

 

[noxibox]

All these free speech advocates , i wonder was the same song sung when the Danes were being terrorised for drawings , what about that news outlet which got shot up ? Still all advocated for free speech or is it just easy to point at Christians.

Yes, still advocated for free speech. There were numerous articles on the matter too.

Maybe we're picking the ones relevant to our cultures and were part of our upbringing? Since many of our schools follow the christian faith, have school prayers and bible classes? Or we get bombarded by people witnessing to us, coming to our gates or condemning us based on our lifestyles?

That is the reason.

This has nothing to do with what is considered fact , it is people saying its fine to mock Christian figures(edit) but if you do it to others you can be called islamaphobic/antisemitic/etc , so its clear people mock the religions which do not generally have life threatening consequences .

Self-preservation is quite reasonable, but you're wrong in claiming that people don't criticise and mock Islam. They're rarely even threatened never mind killed.

Everyone loves their own life, don't you think? I find Christian community more mature as they seem to handle insults to their sky-fairy rather well, compared to other sky-fairy worshippers.

Now Christians are, but it really wasn't that long ago they'd make life very unpleasant for you if you failed to adhere to the religion, and only a little further back when they would have killed you for it. Christian has often been very un-Christian. Still is today. The love of and pursuit of money being an example.

Yeah read my last sentence of what you replied to .

The contradictions are your problem. Or you're admitting that Christianity teaches people to be violent, but Christians just don't believe strongly enough to go out and kill people like they're supposed to.

 

[surface]

My feelings arent hurt , i just want equality of derision re: religions.

I am afraid that Canada might be your only option.

 

[surface]

Equality or nothing , thats the spirit.

You are a reasonable man. Baby steps are important in any kind of social movements. Ex-christians have shown the way. Ex-muslims are following and hopefully others will wake up.

 

[daveza]

If a religion is going to run a social media outrage campaign against a schoolkid, someone who does not adhere to their beliefs, who is called a satanist.... then I'm really not sure why there is any surprise at kickback.

Hell ( no pun intended ) I don't believe even Hitler was called a satanist.

Mr Anderson and his followers have not come out from this covered in glory (again no pun intended ).

 

[Jabulani22]

Yes, still advocated for free speech. There were numerous articles on the matter too.


That is the reason.


Self-preservation is quite reasonable, but you're wrong in claiming that people don't criticise and mock Islam. They're rarely even threatened never mind killed.


Now Christians are, but it really wasn't that long ago they'd make life very unpleasant for you if you failed to adhere to the religion, and only a little further back when they would have killed you for it. Christian has often been very un-Christian. Still is today. The love of and pursuit of money being an example.


The contradictions are your problem. Or you're admitting that Christianity teaches people to be violent, but Christians just don't believe strongly enough to go out and kill people like they're supposed to.

People do not exhibit anti islam/etc things at school , free speech is chosen by some and not all adhere to its tenants , No i did not advocate Christians to kill people and yes it was an example of people saying hurr durr its in their book , i just pointed it out .

 

[noxibox]

The pages of a religious book make the best rolling paper.

They should make good kindling too. But I have a strong aversion to burning any book.

Surely the creator of all reality is beyond all offence and harm?

It would be logical to think so. It would also be logical to believe that the creator has no interest in religion or being worshipped.

Even more hilarious... secular humanists have pretty much enshrined tolerance as a virtue into their Bibles/constitutions. That is, they tolerate you if you are a fellow virtue signalling secular humanist.

They actually advocate being judgemental which is a key requirement of being tolerant.

I guess that is the nice thing if you make up your relative morals as you go along. Comedy gold.

Making up morals as you go along. Same as religions then.

 

[Jabulani22]

I am afraid that Canada might be your only option.

I want equality not bestiality , which is apparently legal there .......
I am reasonable , yes indeed , lets rather not allow the derision at all but if it must happen let those who partake face equal measures against them , so since you can be fired from your job or killed if you critisize other religions , lets do it for all , yay but not really lets have more peace and less strife.

 

[noxibox]

People do not exhibit anti islam/etc things at school

Don't know if they do. Besides an attempt to move the goalposts it is irrelevant to the Christian context of the surrounding society and in particular this school.

yes it was an example of people saying hurr durr its in their book , i just pointed it out .

Then do both. Turn your cheek while blowing them to pieces.

 

[Jabulani22]

Don't know if they do. Besides an attempt to move the goalposts it is irrelevant to the Christian context of the surrounding society and in particular this school.


Then do both. Turn your cheek while blowing them to pieces.

Its no attempt at goal moving , its a glaring comparison of the obvious flaw in people's thinking regarding the protection/persecution of certain religions .
Guess you missed the pointo....

 

[STS]

Did i call numbers into question or did i simply say that investigation should be allowed by anyone or group ?
Cmon now dont do me a disservice , go edit your post to say you wish to condemn me as an antisemite because you have no counters to my points.

I could care less if you are antisemite or not, hypocrisy to me is worse. You say the holocaust numbers should be under investigation yet you are also asking people to stop knocking christianity coz there are more abusive religions out there

 

[Jabulani22]

I could care less if you are antisemite or not, hypocrisy to me is worse. You say the holocaust numbers should be under investigation yet you are also asking people to stop knocking christianity coz there are more abusive religions out there

I said the entire holocaust should be investigated without fear , for historic accuracy , lol you just cant help trying to paint it as some smear against me .
I never said stop or go easy , i said ALL should be treated equally .
I get it , you cant argue using facts so you go for easy ways to call your opponents into disrepute , better luck next time .

 

[daveza]

I said the entire holocaust should be investigated without fear , for historic accuracy

I presume you question the numbers.

If you find it was only a genocide of 1 million human beings and not 6 million does it make it less of an atrocity ?