Richard’s Bay: Parents left horrified by students’ “demonic” artworks / AKA The demonic art thread

[Techne]

Gave us nothing? That is right

I think now is the time you prove that religion has given humanity nothing. Good luck. And even you do manage to do so it still won't save you from your clueless assertion that atheism is scientifically correct or factual

 

[STS]

Tithes are not a thing going directly to god , factually incorrect as i said , attribution of human behaviour to god.
Also it misses out polytheists completely , but thats ok since it misses all the other major religions and goes for the one its popular to insult.

BTW-Atheism is, in the broadest sense, an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.
No mention of science there . here is some for you though.
https://me.me/i/the-first-gulp-from-the-glass-of-natural-sciences-will-15286451

It is a rejection based in science, logic and education. Adults do not stop believing in Santa because they reject Santa, it is because the concept is fake and impossible.

It is a joke poking fun at western christianity, which is still thriving else churches would have gone out if business years ago. The kind if christianity that we are duscussing in this thread.

 

[Jabulani22]

It is a rejection based in science, logic and education. Adults do not stop believing in Santa because they reject Santa, it is because the concept is fake and impossible.

It is a joke poking fun at western christianity, which is still thriving else churches would have gone out if business years ago. The kind if christianity that we are duscussing in this thread.

Athiesm is not rejection based on science , you are wrong and you have watched too much rick and morty if you believe that .
Poke fun all you want but dont assign the Christian god all the negatives of greedy preachers then proceed to attack that strawman argument.
Just like if you wouldnt burn a buddhist text or sacred knot or whatever then dont do it to the catholics.
Also nice dodge there not even going for the pictured statement by a scientist , to be honest i would have left it alone too if i were in your shoes.

 

[STS]

I think now is the time you prove that religion has given humanity nothing. Good luck. And even you do manage to do so it still won't save you from your clueless assertion that atheism is scientifically correct or factual

How is it not factual? Science, along with logic can disprove all kinds of superstitions such as werewolves, ghosts, vampires, tokoloshes, tooth fairies. Why is your sunday fairy any different?

 

[Techne]

How is it not factual? Science, along with logic can disprove all kinds of superstitions such as werewolves, ghosts, vampires, tokoloshes, tooth fairies. Why is your sunday fairy any different?

This is Pure Cluelessness Gold™. Keep going, strut your stuff and tell everyone how empirical science can settle the question of God's existence. Come on, don't be shy

And while you are at it, be an intellectually honest atheist and tell everyone how atheism's best bet, materialism, completely negates reason and logic.

 

[Cray]

Whose moaning about atheists' views being meaningless and useless? Not me and not atheists. Atheists know their views are meaningless and useless.

Citation needed! You are clearly not an atheist so assume you have a vast database of atheists confessing to that fact? Otherwise you are just talking out of your ass because the idea of someone not believing in what you do scares you so much you have to repeat it to yourself in the hope that you might convince yourself that it's true...

If only they would live like intellectually honest atheists. Alas. In that sense people should just moan more about atheists and say... STFU and mind your own meaningless business and stop trying to find meaning by trying to piss off other people ..

Perhaps if religious people would STFU about other people's personal choices which don't affect them, then maybe the rest of the world would be more inclined to give their beliefs a pass without comment...

 

[STS]

Athiesm is not rejection based on science , you are wrong and you have watched too much rick and morty if you believe that .
Poke fun all you want but dont assign the Christian god all the negatives of greedy preachers then proceed to attack that strawman argument.
Just like if you wouldnt burn a buddhist text or sacred knot or whatever then dont do it to the catholics.
Also nice dodge there not even going for the pictured statement by a scientist , to be honest i would have left it alone too if i were in your shoes.

The scientists didn't elaborate how god was at the bottom of the glass or if god was even the god of the bible. You can contribute more info but I am too tired to do research. One scientist doesn't prove the christian god anyway, it could be allah at the bottom of the glass.

What is the rejection of god based on? Feelings? Roll of the dice? Fashion?

People apply human traits to the christian god, god is angry, god is merciful, god is loving, god wants this, god hates that, etc. A lot of people are doing the talking on gods behalf. Even you apparently, as god told you that he doesn't like greedy preachers? How do you know this?

 

[STS]

This is Pure Cluelessness Gold™. Keep going, strut your stuff and tell everyone how empirical science can settle the question of God's existence. Come on, don't be shy

What existence? There needs to be evidence for a claim such as that

 

[Techne]

Citation needed! You are clearly not an atheist so assume you have a vast database of atheists confessing to that fact? Otherwise you are just talking out of your ass because the idea of someone not believing in what you do scares you so much you have to repeat it to yourself in the hope that you might convince yourself that it's true...

Atheism on its own is useless. It has no positive content or beliefs. This is basic stuff. And atheists typically try to say the universe is meaningless but their brains can magically find meaning. Stupid I know, but hey, it is what it is.

Perhaps if religious people would STFU about other people's personal choices which don't affect them, then maybe the rest of the world would be more inclined to give their beliefs a pass without comment...

Perhaps. Or maybe atheists should just STFU about other people's choices. No amount of moaning will give them meaning or change people's choices anyway.

 

[Techne]

What existence? There needs to be evidence for a claim such as that

Keep going Captain Clueless . Great ambassador for atheism

 

[Cray]

Atheism on its own is useless. It has no positive content or beliefs. This is basic stuff. And atheists typically try to say the universe is meaningless but their brains can magically find meaning. Stupid I know, but hey, it is what it is.

But you don't actually know that for a fact, you are just assuming based on your own belief... You are so wrapped up in your own beliefs that you assume that unless people believe in a god their lives must be meaningless... So a totally unproven and unsubstantiated belief...?

Perhaps. Or maybe atheists should just STFU about other people's choices. No amount of moaning will give them meaning or change people's choices anyway.

Yawn, keep telling yourself how you absolutely know how other people must think...As if the idea of you worshiping the same god that your parents chose for you somehow gives your life more meaning than people who want more than just empty platitudes in choosing how to live their lives....?

 

[SaiyanZ]

Atheism on its own is useless. It has no positive content or beliefs. This is basic stuff. And atheists typically try to say the universe is meaningless but their brains can magically find meaning. Stupid I know, but hey, it is what it is.


Perhaps. Or maybe atheists should just STFU about other people's choices. No amount of moaning will give them meaning or change people's choices anyway.

You talk about meaning like it's some sort of enlightenment that religious have achieved and can wear like a badge of honor. It's just another belief in their heads just like all the other magic that religion is based upon. People already believe so much bull, might as well add another one to the list.

People also don't have to read a book or go to church to find meaning in their lives. Do you think the Eskimos for example felt like their lives had no meaning before the preachers found them? Nope. They survived and lived their lives just fine.

 

[John Tempus]

I think now is the time you prove that religion has given humanity nothing. Good luck. And even you do manage to do so it still won't save you from your clueless assertion that atheism is scientifically correct or factual

Of course religious people have done good and bad but there is no evidence its purely because they were religious that they did good or bad so your claim that its due to religion that something good have happen to humanity is absolutely flawed.

By that same logic the apparent good that could only be done thanks to religion is completely counterbalanced null and void if you look at all the bad religion have done to the world.

Now you might want to cherry pick that one religion did more bad than another but we will just keep going in circles if you enter that paradigm.

Fact is any culture that obeys some invisible ghost(s) will create nutjobs and extreme stances that will oppress anyone outside their 'click'.

The main meme about religion is that its a psychological tribal click and that is probably why people to this day gravitate towards some sort of religion because instinctively every human being in some way want to be part of a tribe/click because of the psychological safety nest it creates.

 

[John Tempus]

Atheism on its own is useless. It has no positive content or beliefs. This is basic stuff. And atheists typically try to say the universe is meaningless but their brains can magically find meaning. Stupid I know, but hey, it is what it is.


Perhaps. Or maybe atheists should just STFU about other people's choices. No amount of moaning will give them meaning or change people's choices anyway.

Haha that opening stance is so christian of you, always absolutes. Wooot.

Lack of a believe in BS fairies does not mean atheists doesnt believe in love, family, being a good person etc etc. Atheists contain all the elements of any religious person minus the brainwashing and unicorn worshipping.

Did that clear things up for you ?

ps. I love your claim of "other peoples choices" , are you sure it was your choice ? Very few monotheists actually can claim to have made the religious choice and not indoctrinated since birth. Indoctrination of children to trust and believe in anything told to them by elders or adult figures is proven over and over again just how malleable young children are and the main reason why kids get abused sexually by people they trust because they are indoctrinated not to question and that what the elder is doing is completely fine. This is exactly how religion indoctrinate young children. If there was a law that prevented religious indoctrination before thinking age ie. 13 years or older , all religions would have had some of the worse follower numbers imaginable.

You do you baby-girl.

 

[STS]

Keep going Captain Clueless . Great ambassador for atheism

At least I am real your ambassador is in your head

 

[Lucas Buck]

Atheism on its own is useless. It has no positive content or beliefs. This is basic stuff. And atheists typically try to say the universe is meaningless but their brains can magically find meaning. Stupid I know, but hey, it is what it is.

Like these works of art that have a different meaning for everyone or have no meaning for some. How stupid these people must be to magically find different a meaning in the paintings.

 

[noxibox]

when they push for Christian values to be pulled out of school and government in traditionally Christian places.

Which values are those?

https://me.me/i/the-first-gulp-from-the-glass-of-natural-sciences-will-15286451
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The question is why anyone thinks that means their particular religion is true. Why they think a deity would care about their behaviour, make up rules for them or want to be worshipped?

So basically an attack on Christianity as per the norm.

Yes, why would he do that in a country like the US where they push Hinduism at every turn? With the ubiquity of Hindu imagery and Hindus trying to get Hindu worship made mandatory in all schools and government you'd think he'd be making jokes about Hindu gods. Didn't Carlin know his cultural context?

 

[dj2381]

Scientology is a great example of how people will believe just about anything if they are told or forced into it from a young age, which I suspect this dominee might a victim of, his parents and his grandparents were probably highly religious so it carries on through generations, continuously forced on them from early years, they don't know any better.

Maybe 3000 years from now scientology will be the main stream religion for everyone around the globe. There is no one here that can tell me that the people who believe in scientology are right in their heads, why is your or any other religion any different?

 

[buka001]

Interesting to see the 3 biggest holocaust deniers/revisionists here defending this.

Very interesting.

 

[rietrot]

Interesting to see the 3 biggest holocaust deniers/revisionists here defending this.

Very interesting.

You seeing imagery Nazis again? Who is defending this?