Ripping MP3s from CD: Legal battle of opinions

"I don’t think it would be a good idea to treat music and software the same way since the way that they are used is different," Weertman answered.
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Translation: "It's OK by us if you copy their stuff, just don't copy our stuff."
 
"I don’t think it would be a good idea to treat music and software the same way since the way that they are used is different," Weertman answered. "The laws need to be flexible enough to give people a base model but then allow them the flexibility to choose other licensing models."

Weertman added that companies that develop and release consumer software such as Symantec and Microsoft have begun allowing multiple installations per license, but that it's worthwhile debating personal use provisions with the software vendors.
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ROFL. Since when did the usage of a copyrighted item determine how a copyright holder can legally determine his/her own licensing stipulations? That's just interpreting things ass about face. And answer me how a couple gigs of music could ever be considered as being used for reviewing purposes?

The Act does need major reviewing itself however - the public needs clarification, not some autonomous yet biased body who believe they determine what you can and can't do with copyrighted material. Public interest se gat - they're a representative body through and through...
 
what does it matter? this debate does not change the fact that i will never buy music, ever.
i pay for my uncapped, everything else is free.
 
Insert CD
CD Players converts digital signal to electrical signal to send to the speakers - Format Shift.
Speakers convert this to sound waves - Format Shift
Ears convert it to signals to the nerve cells - Format shift

Anyone who listens to a CD is pirating, they've done 3 format shifts!
 
The sooner the law is changed that a person purchased the right to access a IP(?) rater than a purchase of a medium, all this crap will go away. If I own a song, I should have the right to obtain it on any medium without having to re-purchase it ie: being charged for tape and CD and mp3 or for both DVD and Blu-Ray. DVD would be a different IP as it would probably involve video versus pure audio.
 
Does Mr Weertman own a ipod or MP3 player? How many songs are there on his kids smart phone?
 
It's all a moot point. Just another pointless and unenforceable law to show us all what an arse the law is.
 
I think it is purely an industry that does not want to conform to a new era. The industry is dying.
 
Well if I could actually buy all of the local music in MP3 format, I wouldn't actually mind but seeing as I can't, my CD's will be ripped to my PC regardless of what RiSA says! I cannot carry a CD shuttle/player around wherever I go, that is exactly the point of having an iPod or MP3 player, to play music without having to carry CDs around.
 
The SA Copyright Act requires amendment to move with technological developments. Most people no longer have a turntable on which to play their vinyl or shellac records and shifting the format to .WAV is not considered illegal by major recording companies in South Africa, with the provision that only one recording of the original source is made and no copies are kept on the transferring computer. With the demise of the stylus industry and the massive increase in cost of turntables, people are unwilling or not able to obtain brand new turntables on which to play their LPs. Consequently they turn to service providers to digitize their music and place it on CD. While both sides of the legalities of such operations may be debated, the fact is that there is a need in the market for this and many people are doing it simply as a service to the bona fide owner of the LP, Seven Single, 78, or audio tape. Apart from which, obtaining copies of their sources on CD is practically impossible and people do not want to buy a CD with a different orchestra, artist, arranger, etc. The Copyright Act in South Africa requires adjustment to stay abreast with technological developments and make it legal to transfer music from source to CD, provided only one copy is made and no copies are kept on the transferring computer.
 
I
DON'T
CARE

This argument is almost as useless as an argument about whose religion is best. Nobody cares and just carry on as if you said nothing.
 
Regardless of his interpretation of the act, du Plessis said that RiSA isn't interested in chasing down people making private copies of music they own a license to.
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So again RiSA are interpreting the law and playing judge? Why not spend some money and get a legal opinion from a judge which can then be used to stop all of this lawyer nonsense? If we are to read each and every legal contract we enter into fully we would be able to do nothing else.
 
Application of the law

The BSA attorney is correct on this and the jurists have given a fair opinion.It currently stands as moot. Vermeulen this ranks as one of your worst articles but I will put it down to citizen journalism!:D
 
Why dont RiSA go tell that to the guy who invented CD ripping. Nobody had a problem with it then
 
The answer is simple, purchase music online in mp3 format. Who uses CDs these days in any case ?
 
R4tt3xx said:
The answer is simple, purchase music online in mp3 format. Who uses CDs these days in any case ?
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I haven't bought a CD in years... the last one was Star Wars Episode 2 Sound track... which wouldn't play on my PC.

I had to go and download the album from the internet just to be able to listen to it.

Now I just avoid buying the crippled CDs and go straight to the internet first.
 
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