Running a petrol generator vs the cost of batteries compared

[RedViking]

i honestly think batteries will still get a lot better and to invest huge amounts now may not be worthwhile .li technology is still to he replaced by something better im sure .but at the moment for many its about survival .

They just get more and more and more expensive and unaffordable. Due to shortages or whatever reasons, as world energy crisis continues and the libtards push their global warming green crap, it will just continue to get more expensive.

 

[wingnut771]

when you say nmc .im not familiar with the abbreviation .

I think Tesla use this chemistry too, but are starting to use LFP.

Cobalt is a swear word because of child labour in the DRC or wherever.

 

[soulie]

Even inverters+batteries are noisy... Fanless ones? Or is that just a big UPS?

fanless ones are the ones in the big metal box in the middle of your garden glowing in the dark .

 

[soulie]

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I think Tesla use this chemistry too, but are starting to use LFP.

Cobalt is a swear word because of child labour in the DRC or wherever.

thankyou .interresting i will read further .

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

They just get more and more and more expensive and unaffordable. Due to shortages or whatever reasons, as world energy crisis continues and the libtards push their global warming green crap, it will just continue to get more expensive.

You mean we are having LS because of libtard greenies? So that we have to buy solar. Your tinfoil hat is not sitting straight. It is called supply and demand, and the demand is there for solar because traditional energy is fvcked.

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

i honestly think batteries will still get a lot better and to invest huge amounts now may not be worthwhile .li technology is still to he replaced by something better im sure .but at the moment for many its about survival .also its all about turnover at the moment stuff the 540 pages of terms and conditions ,just give me that battery mate .when did you ever read your cellphone contract thoroughly ? you just want your new toy and to get out of there .

It will always be like that, always new better tech coming out. The thing is it is best to buy right now, because if you stay in SA you have to buy a system, so you might as well spare some dark pain and get it now. Many dark days ahead in the near future.

 

[RedViking]

You mean we are having LS because of libtard greenies? So that we have to buy solar. Your tinfoil hat is not sitting straight. It is call supply and demand, and the demand is there for solar because traditional energy is fvcked.

In South Africa we have an energy crisis mostly to blame on the government. As usually you only read partially and comprehend partially. However the mericans psughing their own agenda when afrika cant even keep the lights on

South Africa: U.S.$8 Billion to Transition South Africa to Clean Energy

Just weeks from the November scheduled COP 27 in Egypt, South Africa has officially announced plans to wean itself off its coal-dependency industries in under five years.

allafrica.com

Prices gonna just keep on going up and up and up....

 

[airborne]

battery packs in tools are mostly lithium nowdays and they certainly dont last 5 years .18 months to 24 months usually .the real truth on lithium batteries is still out there .i think many people are going to be very annoyed with their prized chinese battery packs .

Don’t last 5yrs?
Unless the battery pack is poorly designed or seriously abused they will last way past 5yrs. I have tools with 10yr old li-ion batteries still chugging along just fine.

High quality 18650 cells are some of the most robust and durable storage devices available, I have some that are 15yrs old still working great, obviously no longer running at their specified capacity but not significantly so and otherwise they still work fine.

 

[AchmatK]

a customer just replaced his 12 marine deep cycle batteries at 8 years .we had 4 days zero power over winter .they have performed as expected with a 5kw inverter .he is replacing them with 30 deep cycle batteries and an 8kw inverter as well as putting up 12 of 500 something watt solar panels .he estimates because of the capacity he has now they will last at least 10 years .cost was R100k for batteries alone and installation .you get 2 if youre lucky lithiums for that price .

Pointless post without specifying the capacity of the battery that was installed that cost R100k.

R100k can get you 15kWh of lithium batteries. What is the specifications of the 30 deep cycle batteries (Ah, Volts?). So what if you can only get 2 lithium batteries if each one of them is already half the capacity of 30 deep cycle batteries.

What was the capacity of the marine batteries and what was discharge rate and kWh extracted over the 8 year period?

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

However the mericans psughing their own agenda when afrika cant even keep the lights on


Prices gonna just keep on going up and up and up....

Lol "pushing their own agenda". Tinfoil hat stuff off the top shelf. If that money from the greenies were used like it was intended to, prices would have come down significantly. This has nothing to do with a "green agenda", in fact, this "agenda" is the only thing that will keep your lights on. You are just stuck in the past.

 

[RedViking]

Lol "pushing their own agenda". Tinfoil hat stuff off the top shelf. If that money from the greenies were used like it was intended to, prices would have come down significantly. This has nothing to do with a "green agenda", in fact, this "agenda" is the only thing that will keep your lights on. You are just stuck in the past.

Learn to read sunshine. Higher demand for solar, not enough supplies , higher the prices go. It has nothing to do with tinfoil and the past. It is happening. The topic at hand has to do with costs. Focus.

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

Learn to read sunshine. Higher demand for solar, higher the prices go. It has nothing to do with tinfoil and the past. It is happening. The topic at hand has to do with costs. Focus.

Then maybe stop referring to the "green agenda" as if it is something bad. Focus!

 

[soulie]

Pointless post without specifying the capacity of the battery that was installed that cost R100k.

R100k can get you 15kWh of lithium batteries. What is the specifications of the 30 deep cycle batteries (Ah, Volts?). So what if you can only get 2 lithium batteries if each one of them is already half the capacity of 30 deep cycle batteries.

What was the capacity of the marine batteries and what was discharge rate and kWh extracted over the 8 year period?

pointless reply .i dont care what the specs are .youre reply is a typical mybroadband anal reply .i was making a statement ,i really dont care about the specs hes happy .youre obviously not .tough

 

[RedViking]

Then maybe stop referring to the "green agenda" as if it is something bad. Focus!

Get on with it. Add something constructive. Rambling on worse than Zuma.

 

[Benedict A55h0le]

Get on with it. Add something constructive.

Stop referring to the "green agenda" as if it is something bad. Focus!

 

[RedViking]

Stop referring to the "green agenda" as if it is something bad. Focus!

 

[AchmatK]

pointless reply .i dont care what the specs are .youre reply is a typical mybroadband anal reply .i was making a statement ,i really dont care about the specs hes happy .youre obviously not .tough

It's pointless as there is nothing to compare it to.

For all we know it could be 30 x 100A 2V batteries.

Your post actually does not give any information besides how much he paid for the batteries.

When it comes to batteries, amps and volts are critical information in determining its value and usefulness. The cost says nothing on its own.

 

[lkswan747]

I converted my generator to run on dual fuel (Petrol/gas) the gas option is way cheaper than petrol as I get approximately the same run time of 10+ hours on a 9kg bottle of gas @ R250.00 vs 20 litres of petrol @ R440.00.

 

[Tiggerxi77]

battery packs in tools are mostly lithium nowdays and they certainly dont last 5 years .18 months to 24 months usually .the real truth on lithium batteries is still out there .i think many people are going to be very annoyed with their prized chinese battery packs .

You get wat you pay for. Ive got pylontech batteries for my solar thats 4years old. They discharge at least 50% daily and with the current state of loadshedding mostly 75%. The SOH (state of health) is still 96%. Im confident they will last 10years and by the still have 80% of the original capacity. Bottom line it is much more cost effective than lead acid which is dead after a year.

 

[hj007]

What does 1000 cycles for lithium actually imply in practice. Is that 1k times I can drain them to zero? Or something else?

If I have 3 sessions of loadshedding per day like in stage 6 and I flatten them, would 1k cycles last me 1 year then?

Tx