Russia to land two nuclear-capable bombers in SA

[Thor]

Inviting the US to liberate South Africa and bring us democracy at 21 freedoms per second.

 

[Alan]

Inviting the US to liberate South Africa and bring us democracy at 21 freedoms per second.

Good luck. The ANC spent billions on fancy subs to deal with such an eventuality....

A pronouncement by Health Minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang that South Africa must be prepared - from a military point of view - for a possible invasion by the United States has been branded as "totally irresponsible" by Afrikaner Eenheidsbeweging leader Cassie Aucamp.

He was reacting to a report in a British newspaper on Tuesday that quotes her as saying: "Look at what Bush is doing. He could invade." Tshabalala reportedly made the statement during a recent interview with the Guardian, which was quizzing her on the availability of drugs to fight Aids.


She told the Guardian that budgetary priorities meant her department could not provide anti-retrovirals to the estimated 4,5 million South Africans with HIV."We don't have the money for that. Where would it come from?" the newspaper quoted her as saying.Asked if it could come from defence savings, if three proposed submarines were left out of South Africa's arms deal, the minister said the country needed to deter aggressors.

"South Africa cannot afford drugs to fight HIV and Aids partly because it needs submarines to deter attacks from nations such as the US," the Guardian quotes Tshabalala-Msimang as saying.

We need weapons more than Aids drugs - Manto

Health Minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang has been slammed by Cassie Aucamp, the leader of the Afrikaner Eenheidsbeweging, for her "totally irresponsible" claims about a potential United States attack on South Africa. She was quoted in a British newsp

www.iol.co.za

 

[Thor]

Scary. We picked the worst ally imaginable.

 

[surface]

WATCH: Russia lands two nuclear-capable bombers in SA

The flight comes amid a push by Moscow for influence on the African continent.

www.enca.com

is SA moving physically to be near pakistan or palestine?

 

[Eniigma]

You bet your ass they aren't carrying laws around..
Recently found this out myself, but it's actually ordnance.

I don't see any point to them stationing any aircraft here if it's not going to carry any live ordnance.

If "it kicks off", what they going to do? Fly byes to beat them into submission?

 

[GhostSixFour]

I don't see any point to them stationing any aircraft here if it's not going to carry any live ordnance.

If "it kicks off", what they going to do? Fly byes to beat them into submission?

I was pointing out the difference between ordnance and ordinance

But, to answer your question, they are able to project air power further, give their crews time in cockpit and flying operational missions to different climates and with our current heatwave, some experience in hot weather - although, seeing as they are involved in syria and those places they probably have enough of that.

 

[MidnightWizard]

From the article: "two Tupolev Tu-160 bombers were being sent to South Africa on a first-ever flight to develop bilateral military cooperation."

Now what on earth could that be? Why would SA Airforce need to train alongside a Russian bomber? What scenario would that cover? By the way to the guys here in the know: do we even have bombers in our airforce?

Use of Airbases / Logistics / Ground Support

In order to dominate the SOUTH ATLANTIC AND Indian Ocean

Would ALL be done by Russians -- just need SA political green-light

Russians already use Cape Town to fly down to the Antarctic

As I mentioned -- be afraid be VERY afraid

 

[MidnightWizard]

Some pics I took of the BUFF at RAF Fairford recently.

Many shot down by the North Vietnamese

Fifty Shades of Friction ( PDF )

How to shoot down a B52

Linebacker: The Untold Story of the Air Raids over North Vietnam

B52 LONG past sell by date ..........

 

[MidnightWizard]

is SA moving physically to be near pakistan or palestine?

Nope
RUSSIA is moving closer to [Sub-Saharan ] Africa

WHY one needs overseas bases

As part of the build-up for Linebacker I, Strategic Air Command (SAC) launched Operation Bullet Shot, which sent 124 more B-52s from bases in the U.S. to Guam; bringing the total B-52 strength available for operations in Southeast Asia to 207. One hundred fifty three B-52s were at Andersen AFB (55 B-52Ds and 98 B-52Gs) and another 54 B-52Ds were based at U-Tapao, Thailand. Over 12,000 airmen on Guam were packed into the dorms, with spill-overs residing in temporary steel dorms called Tin City. Canvas Courts, a collection of tent shelters and available off base hotels, and even the base gymnasium were converted to living quarters to house all of the Airmen. The last time there were this many bombers and Airmen on Guam was 1945, for World War II air operations against Japan.

Linebacker II Andersen Air Force Base

How many STRATEGIC bomber bases does the US have in Africa -- Southern Africa ?

 

[buka001]

Many shot down by the North Vietnamese

Fifty Shades of Friction ( PDF )

How to shoot down a B52

Linebacker: The Untold Story of the Air Raids over North Vietnam

B52 LONG past sell by date ..........

Lol

It has been refitted and upgraded. It provides an unrivaled platform of weapons delivery, outside of the USAF. The Russians and Chinese have nothing that competes on these terms.

The USAF continues to rely on the B-52 because it remains an effective and economical heavy bomber in the absence of sophisticated air defenses, particularly in the type of missions that have been conducted since the end of the Cold War against nations with limited defensive capabilities. The B-52 has also continued in service because there has been no reliable replacement.The B-52 has the capacity to "loiter" for extended periods, and can deliver precision standoff and direct fire munitions from a distance, in addition to direct bombing. It has been a valuable asset in supporting ground operations during conflicts such as Operation Iraqi Freedom.The B-52 had the highest mission capable rate of the three types of heavy bombers operated by the USAF in the 2000–2001 period. The B-1 averaged a 53.7% ready rate, the Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit achieved 30.3%, while the B-52 averaged 80.5%.The B-52's $72,000 cost per hour of flight is more than the B-1B's $63,000 cost per hour, but less than the B-2's $135,000 per hour.

 

[buka001]

Nope
RUSSIA is moving closer to [Sub-Saharan ] Africa

WHY one needs overseas bases

As part of the build-up for Linebacker I, Strategic Air Command (SAC) launched Operation Bullet Shot, which sent 124 more B-52s from bases in the U.S. to Guam; bringing the total B-52 strength available for operations in Southeast Asia to 207. One hundred fifty three B-52s were at Andersen AFB (55 B-52Ds and 98 B-52Gs) and another 54 B-52Ds were based at U-Tapao, Thailand. Over 12,000 airmen on Guam were packed into the dorms, with spill-overs residing in temporary steel dorms called Tin City. Canvas Courts, a collection of tent shelters and available off base hotels, and even the base gymnasium were converted to living quarters to house all of the Airmen. The last time there were this many bombers and Airmen on Guam was 1945, for World War II air operations against Japan.

Linebacker II Andersen Air Force Base

How many STRATEGIC bomber bases does the US have in Africa -- Southern Africa ?

The US have a permanent base in Djibouti.

They also have a base at Diego Garcia, in the Indian Ocean.

With air to air refueling, the US can strike pretty much anywhere.

 

[MidnightWizard]

Lol
It has been refitted and upgraded. It provides an unrivaled platform of weapons delivery, outside of the USAF. The Russians and Chinese have nothing that competes on these terms.

in the absence of sophisticated air defenses

BS
How sophisticated do these have to be ?
I see you failed to read the literature provided that would have indicated how many B52's were shot down by NV ( Russian ) supplied missile systems.

 

[MidnightWizard]

The US have a permanent base in Djibouti.
They also have a base at Diego Garcia, in the Indian Ocean.

SO DO the Chinese !

Diego Garcia is BRITISH Overseas Territory
THAT base is NOT immune to POLITICAL developments !

 

[MidnightWizard]

With air to air refueling, the US can strike pretty much anywhere.

THAT is why they HAD TO make use of GUAM !

 

[Okty]

I am more concern there is going to be another bs armsdeal scandel down the road again.

 

[MidnightWizard]

It has been refitted and upgraded. It provides an unrivaled platform of weapons delivery, outside of the USAF. The Russians and Chinese have nothing that competes on these terms.

I am missing a link for your long excerpt ( cut and paste )

 

[MidnightWizard]

I am more concern there is going to be another bs armsdeal scandel down the road again.

IF you are useful the Russians give you all the stuff -- for "FREE"

 

[Okty]

IF you are useful the Russians give you all the stuff -- for "FREE"

Interesting comrad. Tell me more how I can get a Kamov helicopter.

 

[JustJack]

Rumour has it they're taking off early to go have some fun for 3 hours and then go to ORTIA for fuel back home.
So by guesstimate they'll be taking off out of Waterkloof at about 3am.

They'll definitely depart ORTIA off 03L/21R. 23:00LT tomorrow (Sat) evening

 

[infoseeker]

They usually do. I suspect their aircraft fly on a wing and a prayer given the quality of maintenance in the Russian airforce

Maybe they are visiting SAAT?