Russian war in world’s ‘breadbasket’ threatens food supply

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We don't really get wheat from Russia, this would effect Europe more.
Commodity prices are global these days. If the price rises it rises for the entire planet for base commodities as those types of food can be moved around more easily than say milk or other perishable foods.
 

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We don't really get wheat from Russia, this would effect Europe more.

The countries that import most wheat from the Black Sea are in North Africa (Egypt) and South Asia (Pakistan). The effects on SA will mainly be price driven, not actual food shortages.
 
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The countries that import most wheat from the Black Sea are in North Africa (Egypt) and South Asia (Pakistan). The effects on SA will mainly be price driven, not actual food shortages.
SA might experience food shortage of maize and soy due to too much rain in the free state though..... we will only really know at around April if this is going to happen.
 
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Famines can be complex, imports and exports don't necessarily directly impact the way you would think it would.
I was just stating what I read. It's not my stats or opinion. I have nothing more than the article to back it up.
 

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China is not going to move away from food imports, they have such bad pollution in so much of it that a lot of areas the produce has toxins in it, they probably cannot feed their entire population without it.
Thanks to covid the pollution is gone.
 

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We don't really get wheat from Russia, this would effect Europe more.
Hey I buy Russian Rye bread from Checkers, taste better than the German Rye although I haven't been able to get a word never mind a sentence from either.

I guess Covid wasn't the apocalypse after all, it was just the first salvo..
 
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We don't really get wheat from Russia, this would effect Europe more.
SA Farmers sell wheat as per the international price of wheat. SA Food Producers have to buy at that price or the farmers simply sell to international buyers. The problems is international buyers have deeper pockets.
 

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SA Farmers sell wheat as per the international price of wheat. SA Food Producers have to buy at that price or the farmers simply sell to international buyers. The problems is international buyers have deeper pockets.
What people dont get, you can easily have a famine while being a food exporter.
 

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No worries many stocked up in July because they were so hungry, they cleaned out ALL the shops.
 

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No worries many stocked up in July because they were so hungry, they cleaned out ALL the shops.
It was a few actually. EC, WC, FS, L, MP, NW and NC were largely untouched. Large parts of GP were fine as well.
 
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The government can put restrictions on food exports if necessary.
 
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I read somewhere that 30% of our wheat is from Russia and Ukraine.

No, you didn't read properly: 30% of our imports come from those countries, not 30% of our consumption. We do produce plenty of our own wheat, and also import from other countries. It is complicated, because some of our wheat is exported to SADC countries.
 

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Imagine if the SA government used this crisis as a way to bolster the agricultural industry in SA. Some helpful things they could do:
1) Stop the attacks on property rights.
2) Get rid of closed shop union agreements and ban strikes that are not approved under a secret ballot.
3) Introduce a reformed version of the commandos that combines police, private security and civilian units into a competent rural security unit.

Then use our influence in Zimbabwe to get Zimbabwe to do the same sorts of pro-market reforms for them. Within a few years both SA and Zimbabwe would be major food exporters leaving the Ruskies in the cold.
 
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