Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition Part 1

[NarrowBandFtw]

But Nico and NBFTW told us that all these news outlets get their stories from the same source....

that's still effectively the "same source"

multiple outlets visiting the scene of an alleged crime after it has been constructed or tampered with is still reporting on the same fake crime scene

doubly so if those multiple outlets have the same agenda

independent investigation or GTFO

 

[thestaggy]

No ways. That would be disastrous and extremely stupid.

It is already happening. The US has identified the need to rebuild relationships in Southeast Asia. Take note of the veiled jab at China by emphasising ''free and open'' access to the region.

Secretary Blinken’s Remarks on a Free and Open Indo-Pacific ​

Rodrigo Duterte has been cooling his position on China and has been warming up to the US.

4 Things To Know After The Philippines Kept Its Pact With The U.S. Military​

The US has been strengthening military cooperation with Vietnam over the past few years. In 2018, the USS Carl Vinson visited Vietnam, marking the first time in 40-years that a US carrier entered Vietnamese waters.

U.S. Security Cooperation With Vietnam​

The US will most certainly be happy to add Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines to South Korea and Japan as close allies in the region.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Lol we are waiting patiently for the truth. That's all we ask for.

not true, some of us are waiting patiently for the truth

the majority in this thread however have already decided what they want the truth to be and no amount of evidence will sway their warped opinion

same goes for the EU that's busy rolling out more sanctions for an alleged crime

 

[thestaggy]

no thanks, US invasion threads never see this level of outrage

so this is the place to throw hypocrisy in the faces of the outraged ... where were you all the past few decades and the past dozen invasions? ... nowhere to be found, that's where

The US invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003. This forum opened in 2003.

I was in high school between 2001 and 2003.

Tell me how I was going to rage about the US invasions of those countries on a message board that either did not exist or while I was going to school?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1511284174921076736

 

[rietrot]

not true, some of us are waiting patiently for the truth

the majority in this thread however have already decided what they want the truth to be and no amount of evidence will sway their warped opinion

same goes for the EU that's busy rolling out more sanctions for an alleged crime

By "we" I meant the putinbots that support Russia.

 

[tetrasect]

It is already happening. The US has identified the need to rebuild relationships in Southeast Asia. Take note of the veiled jab at China by emphasising ''free and open'' access to the region.

Secretary Blinken’s Remarks on a Free and Open Indo-Pacific ​

Rodrigo Duterte has been cooling his position on China and has been warming up to the US.

4 Things To Know After The Philippines Kept Its Pact With The U.S. Military​

The US has been strengthening military cooperation with Vietnam over the past few years. In 2018, the USS Carl Vinson visited Vietnam, marking the first time in 40-years that a US carrier entered Vietnamese waters.

U.S. Security Cooperation With Vietnam​

The US will most certainly be happy to add Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines to South Korea and Japan as close allies in the region.

That's not the same as "isolating" China...

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

The US invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003. This forum opened in 2003.

I was in high school between 2001 and 2003.

Tell me how I was going to rage about the US invasions of those countries on a message board that either did not exist or while I was going to school?

how about Syria?

been in that thread for years, I promise you there was never any outrage at the US for that invasion anywhere near the Ukraine level

 

[rietrot]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1511284174921076736

Have you watched that? Are you sure that's not a Ukrainian soldier trying to sneak up on the Russian convoy with a Nlaw.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

By "we" I meant the putinbots that support Russia.

ah right, indeed, us putinbots are awaiting the truth, indeed

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1511284174921076736

Bellingcat ... after you just recently commented on RT's credibility?

Bellingcat has none

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

hopefully this is just twitter BS:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1511395422866223112

 

[tetrasect]

The US invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003. This forum opened in 2003.

I was in high school between 2001 and 2003.

Tell me how I was going to rage about the US invasions of those countries on a message board that either did not exist or while I was going to school?

I clearly remember the one single student at our high school who was pro-Bush, while the rest of us were against the war.

He was one of those guys that looked like his mom dressed him in the morning.

 

[MiW]

Hmm... That's right. I recall reports of some rewards they were promised early on in the invasion. So Moscow has to pay everybody that survives... Maybe that's why they are dragging it out.
Hoping to pay less.

First thing he said 'before we cross the border , we were given Tramadol , for strong pain if we get wounded

No one gets pain killer (opiates) hours before the possibility of getting shot.

Tramadol - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Illicit use of the drug is thought to be a major factor in the success of the Boko Haram terrorist organization.[111][112][113] When used at higher doses, the drug "can produce similar effects to heroin."[111] Said one former member, "whenever we took tramadol, nothing mattered to us anymore except what we were sent to do because it made us very high and very bold, it was impossible to go on a mission without taking it."[111] Tramadol is also used as a coping mechanism in the Gaza Strip.[114] It is also abused in the United Kingdom, inspiring the title of the TV show Frankie Boyle's Tramadol Nights (2010).[115][116]

Which is absolutely nothing new in the Russian army, their soldiers came back from Afghanistan as a heroin addicts.

It also leads to killing innocent civilians, rapes and any other type of war crime.

Edit: not Tramadol , but stronger more addictive Promedol

 

[rietrot]

Bellingcat ... after you just recently commented on RT's credibility?

Bellingcat has none

Somewhat factual. Guy cycles for first few seconds then ditch the bicycle, tries to sneek up on Russian convoy and gets wrecked.

 

[tetrasect]

First thing he said 'before we cross the border , we were given Tramadol , for strong pain if we get wounded

No one gets pain killer (opiates) hours before the possibility of getting shot.

Tramadol - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Which is absolutely nothing new in the Russian army, their soldiers came back from Afghanistan as a heroin addicts.

It also leads to killing innocent civilians, rapes and any other type of war crime.

He said Promedol, not tramadol.

Tramadol is a mild pain killer, not gonna make a difference if you get shot...

Promedol on the other hand...

UNODC - Bulletin on Narcotics - 1957 Issue 3 - 005

Promedol is a synthetic analgesic of the pethidine group which was developed in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in the early ' fifties '; was first reported as not producing addiction; but was later found to create addiction. It is usually more easily borne than morphine, and is used in...

www.unodc.org

 

[thestaggy]

That's not the same as "isolating" China...

Well, there is definitely a word for cosying up to a bunch of countries that border a major geopolitical rival.

 

[thestaggy]

I clearly remember the one single student at our high school who was pro-Bush, while the rest of us were against the war.

He was one of those guys that looked like his mom dressed him in the morning.

I just remember most people being shocked by 9/11, but 2003 didn't really register. Media coverage wasn't like it is now either. Not many people had DSTV, so no access to round the clock reporting on it.

 

[AlmightyBender]

that's still effectively the "same source"

multiple outlets visiting the scene of an alleged crime after it has been constructed or tampered with is still reporting on the same fake crime scene

doubly so if those multiple outlets have the same agenda

independent investigation or GTFO

How about holding yourself to the same standard... you never do.

Desperate clutching at straws is all you have. Shame.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

How about holding yourself to the same standard... you never do.

Desperate clutching at straws is all you have. Shame.

feel free to show where I contradict my standard

you know, instead of spouting BS accusations