Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition Part 1

[tetrasect]

How about holding yourself to the same standard... you never do.

Desperate clutching at straws is all you have. Shame.

He thinks sliding from "unverified source!" to "same source!" to "same crime scene!" is a legit move...

 

[MiW]

He said Promedol, not tramadol.

Tramadol is a mild pain killer, not gonna make a difference if you get shot...

Promedol on the other hand...

UNODC - Bulletin on Narcotics - 1957 Issue 3 - 005

Promedol is a synthetic analgesic of the pethidine group which was developed in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in the early ' fifties '; was first reported as not producing addiction; but was later found to create addiction. It is usually more easily borne than morphine, and is used in...

www.unodc.org

Ok so different opioid (had to listen 3-4 times to get it)

Trimeperidine (Promedol) is an opioid analgesic

Trimeperidine is in Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act 1970 of the United States as a Narcotic with ACSCN 9646 with an annual aggregate manufacturing quota of 2 grammes as of 2014. The free base conversion ratio for salts includes 0.883 for the hydrochloride. Promedol increases the activity of the reticular activating system in the brain.[8] It is listed under the Single Convention for the Control of Narcotic Substances 1961 and is controlled in most countries in the same fashion as is morphine or heroin.

I would guess it would work about the same as Tramadol , but being Russian manufacture/ use it wont be as easy to google the abuse.

Opioids are not something you give people hours or days before getting shot.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

He thinks sliding from "unverified source!" to "same source!" to "same crime scene!" is a legit move...

he thinks putting someone on ignore, announcing it to the world, yet continuing to read my comments shows anything other than a lack of discipline and willpower

 

[saturnz]

Shows how much you actually understand.
That is only one factor

It doesnt help having a mountain of money ( that you cant actually use ) when noone wants to trade with you

the west does not represent everyone

didn't Pakistan just buy wheat and gas from Russia?

and if nobody wants to trade with you, your currency will drop as demand drops, that's basic economics

 

[tetrasect]

Ok so different opioid (had to listen 3-4 times to get it)

I would guess it would work about the same as Tramadol , but being Russian manufacture/ use it wont be as easy to google the abuse.

Opioids are not something you give people hours or days before getting shot.

Tramadol is about 10 times weaker than morphine and is a synthetic opioid specifically designed to minimize the "high" and addictive nature of opioids. Sure it can be abused but it's addiction potential is minimal compared to other opioids.

Promedol is way stronger than that, about as strong as morphine itself.

By the looks of it's even more addictive than morphine too, as withdrawal symptoms set in sooner.

So one can assume many of the Russian soldiers are hooked, which is why they are acting like a bunch of crazed addicts.

Yet another parable to the Nazis in WW2.

 

[konfab]

Shows how much you actually understand.
That is only one factor

It doesnt help having a mountain of money ( that you cant actually use ) when noone wants to trade with you

No-one except China.

China can still buy all the stuff from the West and send it on through to Mother Russia. I think the sanctions are not going to do squat to Russia until the EU and US target their main trading partner.

 

[MiW]

More bat **** crazy Russian propaganda

The Russian world of crooked mirrors – Riddle Russia

Olga Irisova on how the Kremlin uses the policy of «fear and lies» to suppress anti-war protests

ridl.io

 

[Impala]

Some of the guys supporting Russia here seem like they are willing to accept that there might be a possibility of war crimes committed by Russia. But a few is a lost cause, you can take them to the area, let them witness it first hand and they will still deny it and say it was staged.

how about Syria?

been in that thread for years, I promise you there was never any outrage at the US for that invasion anywhere near the Ukraine level

Did the US invade Syria? If you argue like this, then I can say that Russia also invaded Syria.

 

[Charlesjjm]

so the rouble has strengthened against the dollar to levels higher than before the war

so sanctions are definitely working

Please tell us what the current interest rate is.

 

[MiW]

'Putin is absolutely right!' - African support on Ukraine shows Kremlin's soft power | News24

African leaders, opposition figures and social influencers are stepping up their support for the Kremlin even as Russia's image elsewhere is being shredded by the war in Ukraine.

www.news24.com

 

[rietrot]

No-one except China.

China can still buy all the stuff from the West and send it on through to Mother Russia. I think the sanctions are not going to do squat to Russia until the EU and US target their main trading partner.

And India.

I think India is even more significant than China economically.

 

[MiW]

Yeah, sure. They just decided to leave their homes and all their possessions for a nice unpaid holiday.

 

[tetrasect]

if nobody wants to trade with you, your currency will drop as demand drops, that's basic economics

The demand for the ruble is created artificially. Russians are not allowed to sell rubles for dollars and 80% of all foreign currency coming into Russia has to be used to buy rubles, by law.

 

[The_Mowgs]

no thanks, US invasion threads never see this level of outrage

so this is the place to throw hypocrisy in the faces of the outraged ... where were you all the past few decades and the past dozen invasions? ... nowhere to be found, that's where

Yes, I agree, I have never been active in those threads as at that time I didn't really have such an interest in International politics etc.

 

[rietrot]

The demand for the ruble is created artificially. Russians are not allowed to sell rubles for dollars and 80% of all foreign currency coming in Russia has to be used to buy rubles, by law.

By your theory there should now be an over supply of Rubles within Russia and Zim style inflation as people walk down the road with a wheelbarrow of money.

 

[Cray]

no thanks, US invasion threads never see this level of outrage

How many US invasion threads have there been since you joined in 2008...?

 

[The Trutherizer]

Knobs siding with Russia in their war against Ukraine forget that Russia did something very similar to Georgia in 2008...

Russo-Georgian War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Attrocities also committed there, so there is a precedent from Russia's side.

Also Chechnya if you go by general MO during Putin's regime.
And you'd think they would, but no... Was heavily discussed in another thread.

 

[MiW]

The demand for the ruble is created artificially. Russians are not allowed to sell rubles for dollars and 80% of all foreign currency coming in Russia has to be used to buy rubles, by law.

Do you really think you can manage teaching complicated economical ways , to people who don't even grasp human rights?

 

[MiW]

Also Chechnya if you go by general MO during Putin's regime.
And you'd think they would, but no... Was heavily discussed in another thread.

 

[konfab]

Do you really think you can manage teaching complicated economical ways , to people who don't even grasp human rights?

Newsflash, no-one can centrally manage an economy.

And governments in the West for the most part completely forgot about human rights for the past 14 days 2 years.