Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition Part 1

[Cray]

On Bucha, which is the topic of discussion, the Pentagon cannot verify the claims.

Pentagon can't independently confirm atrocities in Ukraine's Bucha, official says

The U.S. military is not in a position to independently confirm Ukrainian accounts of atrocities by Russian forces against civilians in the town of Bucha, but has no reason to dispute the accounts either, a senior U.S. defense official said on Monday.

www.reuters.com

War crimes may or may not have happened in Bucha, but I wouldn't trust that source to tell me the weather outside.

 

[Nicodeamus]

War crimes may or may not have happened in Bucha, but I wouldn't trust that source to tell me the weather outside.

do you support Britain blocking the UN call for an investigation?

 

[sefeddt]

that is what Ukraine is currently doing, you would expect that of a Nazi group.

Has Israel, the UN, the Jewish community in Ukraine including other HR groups who all called this BS changed their mind.

 

[Cray]

when the president of Syria asks for your help and officially invites you to come help in his country with military force it is not an invasion in any way shape or form

One dictator helping another, you are consistent in who you support, I will give you that.. Do you really believe Asad got 95% of the vote in a free and fair election in 2021?

 

[Nicodeamus]

Has Israel, the UN, the Jewish community in Ukraine including other HR groups who all called this BS changed their mind.

it's difficult taking Israel seriously when their money ended up in Azov's coffers

Rights groups demand Israel stop arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine

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www.haaretz.com

 

[Cray]

do you support Britain blocking the UN call for an investigation?

They did, source?

 

[access]

Since @access seems to have left, I shall take it upon myself to answer in his stead:

you expect people to hang around and wait. self important much?

So you asert something but can't provide proof of it and we are just supposed to take your word for it despite you being a serial troll, okay mate, enjoy.

you dont have to take my word for anything, thats the great thing about listening/reading to other peoples opinions, just like yours.

so is anyone that does not agree with your point of view a troll? that is so juvenile, i picture a toddler smacking someone when they dont like something then turning away and crying.

btw, the same rubbish was said about russia after/during the crimea thing, which was just as big a load of **** as this, and was much easier to get footage of than now. it is clear that a lot of you will believe absolutely anything which puts russia in a bad light. anything. its pretty funny to see, and typical.

Dissent in the governments favor? WTF are you on now?

to explain what i said previously, and not the partly quoted thing you showed.

pretend to be in or out of favour of something with an ulterior motive in mind.

its really not rocket science. how is it that you claim to be so clever one moment but cannot fathom basics things the next.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

One dictator helping another, you are consistent in who you support, I will give you that.. Do you really believe Asad got 95% of the vote in a free and fair election in 2021?

and you are distracting this for what purpose?

the official government of a country, regardless of what you think of them, asked Russia to come
they did not ask USA, in fact they objected to USA coming

one is an invasion, the other is not, can you tell the difference?

 

[Cray]

and you are distracting this for what purpose?

the official government of a country, regardless of what you think of them, asked Russia to come
they did not ask, in fact they objected to, USA coming

Weren't you the guy that has been saying that the Ukrainian government isn't legitimate because of a supposed coup in 2014? the same guy who says the Ukrainian elections were not free and fair, but you are all good with Syria clearly rigging their voting?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Weren't you the guy that has been saying that the Ukrainian government isn't legitimate because of a supposed coup in 2014? the same guy who says the Ukrainian elections were not free and fair, but you are all good with Syria clearly rigging their voting?

again trying to distract, was USA invading Syria or not?

where was the outrage?

 

[MiW]

The fact that Russians believe the propaganda spewing on Russian TV , makes me think that the majority are not very clever, and the ones who have some brain left, will just pack up and go. Biggest reason Russia will decline will be the brain drain combined with sanctions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1511368941758787592

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

The fact that Russians believe the propaganda spewing on Russian TV , makes me think that the majority are not very clever, and the ones who have some brain left, will just pack up and go. Biggest reason Russia will decline will be the brain drain combined with sanctions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1511368941758787592

and what does it say about you that you believe a known anti-Russia provocateur and convicted criminal?

 

[Cray]

again trying to distract, was USA invading Syria or not?

Dude, you are the one talking about Syria in a thread about a war between Russia and Ukraine, it's a little bit rich to claim distraction just because your double standards are in danger of being exposed.

where was the outrage?

Am sure I don't know, perhaps Syria has been a mess for years and people are less likely to be concerned about the invasion of a country led by a murderous dictator. Ukraine is a democracy and trying to be more western, of course, it's going to draw more interest and condemnation.

 

[Dave]

Dave: oh but think of the boy who lost his mother, it's the Russians!
Me: errr, proof that it was Russia?
Dave: whatabout the invasion bruh?
Me: whatabout Donbass bruh?

I know you are a bit orc-bevok but the invasion was my point, no whataboutism there.

The Russian invasion happened and as a consequence people died.

 

[Solarion]

Lol we are waiting patiently for the truth. That's all we ask for.

Russia invaded a foreign sovereign country and started an armed conflict. Everything else about "Nazi's and "independently verified claims" and "false flag operations". Nobody gives a ****. Literally nobody actually gives a continental bag of dicks. Deal with it.

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

The fact that Russians believe the propaganda spewing on Russian TV , makes me think that the majority are not very clever, and the ones who have some brain left, will just pack up and go. Biggest reason Russia will decline will be the brain drain combined with sanctions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1511368941758787592

But we all know that the average American is not very clever and they have been eating all the propaganda their media have been feeding them for years? Yet you all feed on their media from the other side of the world?

 

[rietrot]

Russia invaded a foreign sovereign country and started an armed conflict. Everything else about "Nazi's and "independently verified claims" and "false flag operations". Nobody gives a ****. Deal with it. Literally nobody actually gives a continental.

Yeah no. Many people aren't as overly emotional and can take nuance positions on topics.

You don't speak for anyone else. If you really don't give a **** what are you doing here and why are you so emotional.

 

[Solarion]

Yeah no. Many people aren't as overly emotional and can take nuance positions on topics.

You don't speak for anyone else. If you really don't give a **** what are you doing here and why are you so emotional.

Emotional. Is that leftist deflection I'm seeing? Gonna have to up your game son.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Dude, you are the one talking about Syria in a thread about a war between Russia and Ukraine, it's a little bit rich to claim distraction just because your double standards are in danger of being exposed.

I'm calling out what it is: a distraction
All the outrage here is all about illegal invaders, yet you want to drag it to the legitimacy of the government?

Ironically also missing the fact that your distraction would tie you up rather than me:
- if the Syrian government's "illegitimacy" justified the US invasion
- the the Ukraine government's "illegitimacy" justifies Russia's invasion

Am sure I don't know, perhaps Syria has been a mess for years

Ukraine's been a mess for over a decade ...

and people are less likely to be concerned about the invasion of a country led by a murderous dictator

the framing of the western MSM verbatim, so rather than outrage at the invasion you blindly accept that it is justified by the "murderous dictator" ... well the murderous neo nazis in Donbass say hi btw

Ukraine is a democracy

a coup does not make a democracy

 

[Dave]

not true, some of us are waiting patiently for the truth

the majority in this thread however have already decided what they want the truth to be and no amount of evidence will sway their warped opinion

same goes for the EU that's busy rolling out more sanctions for an alleged crime

No, you are sitting there parroting what your tame Russian friends and family feed you. You are unable to see the truth because of all the Russian propaganda you are fed.