Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition Part 1

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rietrot said:
Any evidence of it happening in this war? Not just old war stories?
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Define evidence? If you are unwilling to believe news/(possibly)fake news coming out of the Ukraine the only way to be sure is to go there and start turning over bodies. If you are still alive next week I will agree that its "myth busted" As far as I know booby trapping bodies is not a war crime. Although I stand to be corrected. That being said it would a shame not to do it since one's aim is to kill or incapacitate as many enemy as possible.
 
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The mud season will last through most of April, next week is rainy again. The Ukrainians have dug vasts amounts of trenches in the East as well so its less efficient to go off road.
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I doubt they dug trenches to defend from the north, if so only quicky and hasty ones. whereas from the east they have had 8 years to dig defences.
 
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The defence of Slovyansk is the next key battle. ~CNN​

City of Slovyansk in eastern Ukraine could be "next pivotal battle" of Russian forces, experts say​

Recent advances by Russian forces in Kharkiv could be setting the stage for the eastern Ukrainian city of Slovyansk to become the next target of Russia's offensive, according to a report issued Monday by military experts at the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think tank tracking the conflict.
"Efforts by Russian forces advancing from Izyum to capture Slovyansk will likely prove to be the next pivotal battle of the war in Ukraine," which could give Russian forces potential paths to cutting off Ukrainian forces in the east and advancing further into the Luhansk and Donetsk regions, the report said.
"If Russian forces are unable to take Slovyansk at all, Russian frontal assaults in Donbas are unlikely to independently breakthrough Ukrainian defenses and Russia’s campaign to capture the entirety of Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts will likely fail," the report said.
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Russian forces withdrawn from the northern Kyiv region are likely a "spent force" and "unlikely to be effective elsewhere," despite efforts to redeploy them, the report said.
Russian efforts to generate reserves and replace officer casualties continue to face serious challenges, it also said, citing the Ukrainian General Staff.
 
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Head of Kharkiv military administration announces evacuation of 2 cities

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky gave a graphic account of the situation on the ground to the UN Security Council, claiming Russians killed civilians in Bucha for "pleasure." Earlier, he warned worse atrocities may emerge amid the ongoing retreat of Russian forces around Kyiv. Follow here...
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Head of Kharkiv military administration announces evacuation of 2 cities​


Oleh Syniehubov, the head of the Kharkiv regional military administration, said Wednesday authorities would evacuate two towns in the southern part of the region, Lozova and Barvinkove, as a precaution amid escalating fighting in eastern Ukraine.

"We will centrally evacuate those cities in coordination with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in particular in the Izium direction: Lozova city, Barvinkove city — in order to prevent and possibly reduce casualties among civilians in the event of relocation of active hostilities to the vicinity of these settlements," he said.

Russia was focusing efforts to surround Ukraine's Joint Forces Operation troops in the country's east and capture the city of Kharkiv, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense said earlier this week.

Syniehubov said no decision had been made for the centralized evacuation of the city of Kharkiv.
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the uncomfortable possibility almost nobody wants to talk about ...
www.nytimes.com

Opinion | What if Putin Didn’t Miscalculate?

It’s always wiser to treat an adversary as a canny fox, not a crazy fool.
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... what if the conventional wisdom is wrong? What if the West is only playing into Putin’s hands once again?

The possibility is suggested in a powerful reminiscence from The Times’s Carlotta Gall of her experience covering Russia’s siege of Grozny, during the first Chechen war in the mid-1990s. In the early phases of the war, motivated Chechen fighters wiped out a Russian armored brigade, stunning Moscow. The Russians regrouped and wiped out Grozny from afar, using artillery and air power.

Russia’s operating from the same playbook today. When Western military analysts argue that Putin can’t win militarily in Ukraine, what they really mean is that he can’t win clean. Since when has Putin ever played clean?

“There is a whole next stage to the Putin playbook, which is well known to the Chechens,” Gall writes. “As Russian troops gained control on the ground in Chechnya, they crushed any further dissent with arrests and filtration camps and by turning and empowering local protégés and collaborators.”

Suppose for a moment that Putin never intended to conquer all of Ukraine: that, from the beginning, his real targets were the energy riches of Ukraine’s east, which contain Europe’s second-largest known reserves of natural gas (after Norway’s).

Combine that with Russia’s previous territorial seizures in Crimea (which has huge offshore energy fields) and the eastern provinces of Luhansk and Donetsk (which contain part of an enormous shale-gas field), as well as Putin’s bid to control most or all of Ukraine’s coastline, and the shape of Putin’s ambitions become clear. He’s less interested in reuniting the Russian-speaking world than he is in securing Russia’s energy dominance.

“Under the guise of an invasion, Putin is executing an enormous heist,” said Canadian energy expert David Knight Legg. As for what’s left of a mostly landlocked Ukraine, it will likely become a welfare case for the West, which will help pick up the tab for resettling Ukraine’s refugees to new homes outside of Russian control. In time, a Viktor Orban-like figure could take Ukraine’s presidency, imitating the strongman-style of politics that Putin prefers in his neighbors.

If this analysis is right, then Putin doesn’t seem like the miscalculating loser his critics make him out to be.

It also makes sense of his strategy of targeting civilians. More than simply a way of compensating for the incompetence of Russian troops, the mass killing of civilians puts immense pressure on Zelensky to agree to the very things Putin has demanded all along: territorial concessions and Ukrainian neutrality. The West will also look for any opportunity to de-escalate, especially as we convince ourselves that a mentally unstable Putin is prepared to use nuclear weapons.

Within Russia, the war has already served Putin’s political purposes. Many in the professional middle class — the people most sympathetic to dissidents like Aleksei Navalny — have gone into self-imposed exile. The remnants of a free press have been shuttered, probably for good. To the extent that Russia’s military has embarrassed itself, it is more likely to lead to a well-aimed purge from above than a broad revolution from below. Russia’s new energy riches could eventually help it shake loose the grip of sanctions.
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sefeddt said:
I assume you never had to clear a trench or bunker before. if so glad you were not in my section.
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Lets just clear something. Nobody says bodies or anything else is or might not be booby trapped. The OP stated that a grenade was left under the body with the pin removed. It is that statement that we made jokes about.
Now that trick I have only seen a few times and that is in Hollywood movies. I must mention that I also heard about it when I did my military service, but as I got older I tend not to believe much of the stories I heard there.

I also googled it, and although there is lots of info regarding booby traps, I could not find any about this method. I am also sure the fact checkers here would have googled non stop the last hours to prove our jokes wrong.
So if you can give us some real evidence I would be glad to expand my knowledge. But till then we will enjoy our Hollywood jokes.

Just for some perspective. When one sets a booby trap, surely any intelligent person would want to be fully in control and not blow yourself up. Now I might be wrong, but placing a grenade with all safeties removed under a body that has flesh and flexible parts, as well as clothing etc that can move or give way, just seems to me a bit of a risk.
 
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Dave said:
Finland as well, from a government position of a military budget decrease announced for the next financial year to a €2 billion increase over the next four years.

www.thedefensepost.com

Finland Boosts Defense Spending by 2B Euros Over Ukraine

Finland will increase its military spending by more than two billion euros over the next four years, a decision spurred on by Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
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Do you think the Finns will join NATO?
 
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