Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition Part 1

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ShaunSA

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My knee jerk reaction to the stuff thats being found in Bucha is, just build a bloody wall around Russia and cut them off from the world, they clearly aren't capable of interacting with the rest of humanity.

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OhYeah84

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Honestly don't know why you guys haven't put this POS on ignore yet.

He will never admit anything no matter how much evidence there is.

Waste of time talking to a waste of space.
It amuses me, although it hurts my brain to drop my IQ to that sort of level. Sheesh it's low. Also I find it humorous that locals here think Russia is this saviour to the world when they very clearly are not.

Hope the Comrade also drives a Lada to show his support.
 

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It amuses me, although it hurts my brain to drop my IQ to that sort of level. Sheesh it's low. Also I find it humorous that locals here think Russia is this saviour to the world when they very clearly are not.

Hope the Comrade also drives a Lada to show his support.

They would be hanging posters of the mutilated bodies of Bucha's civilians on their walls if they were weren't so duplicitous. But of course they are dishonest even in their support of the Russians.
 

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The longer this goes on in the current format the longer it shifts in Ukraine's favour. They have the moral, and the numbers to just continually ramp up numbers with ample support from NATO for weapons etc. Their irregular forces are far more motivated and effective than anyone would have guessed. While Russia continues to call it a special military operation they cannot call for mass mobilization of their reserves and their manpower will continue to be more and more outnumbered. They may have some success in the far east in regions where the populace is more supportive of them, but the cost will be very high. Militaries the world over are learning some very interesting lessons from this conflict around reservists, urban combat, and effectiveness of traditional military forces when taking cities that are willing and able to defend themselves.

Ukrainians are tough as nails. I don't think Russia is going to get much out of this conflict and it has cost them a lot. It has shown the world the only thing they really have to fear from Russia is their atomic arsenal. Otherwise they are a paper tiger.
 

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The longer this goes on in the current format the longer it shifts in Ukraine's favour. They have the moral, and the numbers to just continually ramp up numbers with ample support from NATO for weapons etc. Their irregular forces are far more motivated and effective than anyone would have guessed. While Russia continues to call it a special military operation they cannot call for mass mobilization of their reserves and their manpower will continue to be more and more outnumbered. They may have some success in the far east in regions where the populace is more supportive of them, but the cost will be very high. Militaries the world over are learning some very interesting lessons from this conflict around reservists, urban combat, and effectiveness of traditional military forces when taking cities that are willing and able to defend themselves.

Ukrainians are tough as nails. I don't think Russia is going to get much out of this conflict and it has cost them a lot. It has shown the world the only thing they really have to fear from Russia is their atomic arsenal. Otherwise they are a paper tiger.
They would need China to support them in terms of military firepower and boots on the ground.
Their tanks are old and pretty ineffective against any rockets; their planes are also old and they only seem to be using the 1980s (and seemingly non-upgraded) Sukhois; and their tactics are nothing short of pathetic.

All in all, once this war is over, Ukraine will emerge stronger than Russia with an even bigger push for NATO membership.
 

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The longer this goes on in the current format the longer it shifts in Ukraine's favour. They have the moral, and the numbers to just continually ramp up numbers with ample support from NATO for weapons etc. Their irregular forces are far more motivated and effective than anyone would have guessed. While Russia continues to call it a special military operation they cannot call for mass mobilization of their reserves and their manpower will continue to be more and more outnumbered. They may have some success in the far east in regions where the populace is more supportive of them, but the cost will be very high. Militaries the world over are learning some very interesting lessons from this conflict around reservists, urban combat, and effectiveness of traditional military forces when taking cities that are willing and able to defend themselves.

Ukrainians are tough as nails. I don't think Russia is going to get much out of this conflict and it has cost them a lot. It has shown the world the only thing they really have to fear from Russia is their atomic arsenal. Otherwise they are a paper tiger.

I think even in the far east regions their "support" is waning somewhat....
 

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Simply let Russia walk in and take over, right Comrade? Save lives that way?

Then which country next?
No. He had the possibility to declare neutrality before the war. Zelensky was to scared of the Nazis to do it.
This way and by implantation the Minsk agreement he could even have kept Dunbas in Ukrainian.

Now Russia solved the Nazi problem for him and he is getting neutrality in anyway minus Dunbas.
 
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No. Ne had the possibility to declare neutrality before the war. Zelensky was to scared of the Nazis to do it.
This way and by implantation the Minsk agreement he could even have kept Dunbas in Ukrainian.

Now Russia solved the Nazi problem for him and he is getting neutrality in anyway minus Dunbas.
Russia wanted territory no matter how much you try to spin it. They want the entire eastern side of Ukraine as well as the Black sea port cities. That was clear from the onset.

They were even prepared to install a puppet regime but were repelled.
 

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No. Ne had the possibility to declare neutrality before the war. Zelensky was to scared of the Nazis to do it.
This way and by implantation the Minsk agreement he could even have kept Dunbas in Ukrainian.

Now Russia solved the Nazi problem for him and he is getting neutrality in anyway minus Dunbas.
Dictionary. Use it.
Grammar lessons. Get them.
 

rietrot

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Russia wanted territory no matter how much you try to spin it. They want the entire eastern side of Ukraine as well as the Black sea port cities. That was clear from the onset.

They were even prepared to install a puppet regime but were repelled.
Russia supported the minsk agreements, Russia wants Crimea because the base and nothing more.
 
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Stop defending the Russians
saying a crime has not been proven is not "defending" anyone

innocent until proven guilty, no matter who the accused is

if you are willing to prosecute someone, ANYONE, based on the court of public opinion alone then you are the problem here
 

NarrowBandFtw

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What's wrong with the Washington Post?
they have been very shoddy throughout the Trump years, vomiting the Russia election hoax and pee dossier nonsense like the rest

that is what is wrong with them

to be fair, and the exact article escapes me now, more recently they did have a uncharacteristically balanced / intriguing article on the Ukraine war which showed some glimmer of their distant past credibility
 

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what a surprise, US "intelligence" officially admits to participating in the Ukraine info war, also that reports of potential chemical attacks were based on nothing but nonsense:
 

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saying a crime has not been proven is not "defending" anyone

innocent until proven guilty, no matter who the accused is

if you are willing to prosecute someone, ANYONE, based on the court of public opinion alone then you are the problem here
(Capitals at the start of a sentence...basic Grade 1 stuff)

You're defending them, Comrade, and it's plain to see. Showing a video of Russians executing Ukrainian citizens on live TV would probably still not convince you.

This thread, and your dumb-ass support of Russia should be revisited if they prosecute the soldiers involved in those atrocities. Then (although we all know it), the confirmation that you all along were the problem in this exchange.

Bye Comrade!
 
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