Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 2

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Nicodeamus said:
The vaccine doesn't stop you from getting the disease and it doesn't stop you from spreading it.
No vaccine does that. It isn't a piece of magic.
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I never said the vaccine stops you from getting the disease. I said I have never had it.

But according to you, the vaccine was a dud and the virus was a scam?
 
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Nicodeamus said:
There is no indication that a vaccine would have done him any better. The biggest predictor of death is obesity and age. People have 2 years to stop putting crappy food in their bodies and get in shape.

the evidence that covid was a deadly pandemic is just poor. The interventions such as high ventilator usuage killed people.
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Nico, the vaccine preps the immune system to start fighting the moment the virus enters the body instead of when the viral load is so high that it overwhelms the immune system, which is what has happened to my brother in law. Had he been vaxxed, his system would have started fighting immediately and he may have had flu symptoms only.

All vaccines work like that and they've been around since the late 1700's. But you, completely medically untrained, know better than medical scientists.
 
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Nicodeamus said:
the evidence that covid was a deadly pandemic is just poor. The interventions such as high ventilator usuage killed people.
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No ventilator when you can't breathe will definitely kill you. Do you think people are intubated or tracheotomised when they can still breathe?
 
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Cosmik Debris said:
No ventilator when you can't breathe will definitely kill you. Do you think people are intubated or tracheotomised when they can still breathe?
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that occured in New York and it was a mass scale iatrogenesis. China lobbied the WHO to put a ventilator protocol for Covid. Initially that killed patients and bursted their lungs.
 
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Cosmik Debris said:
Nico, the vaccine preps the immune system to start fighting the moment the virus enters the body instead of when the viral load is so high that it overwhelms the immune system, which is what has happened to my brother in law. Had he been vaxxed, his system would have started fighting immediately and he may have had flu symptoms only.

All vaccines work like that and they've been around since the late 1700's. But you, completely medically untrained, know better than medical scientists.
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that is the theory, unfortunately if you just look at the data for a minute you realise that the evidence that vaccination brought down diseaase is very poor. In fact vaccination shows no correlation to the decline of disease.
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then you can dig into the claims being made and a lot of them don't hold up, including the argument of pathogen priming. One of the first skeptics to Edward Jenner's claims was Alfred Wallace who showed that the smallpox vaccine didn't bring down the diease and that doctors were misleading themselves. Wallace is credited with Charles Darwin to discover the theory of evolution.
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I can refer you to the antivaxxer thread.

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Cosmik Debris said:
Explain the concept of an independent echo chamber please?
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simple: a group of people that all hold similar opinions and riff off each other with that same opinion like we see in this thread ... with no consideration whatsoever for opinions that are not identical to theirs, that's an echo chamber

you don't actually need to belong to some club or even know each other to belong to the same echo chamber
 
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Nicodeamus said:
that is the theory, unfortunately if you just look at the data for a minute you realise that the evidence that vaccination brought down diseaase is very poor. In fact vaccination shows no correlation to the decline of disease.
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then you can dig into the claims being made and a lot of them don't hold up, including the argument of pathogen priming. One of the first skeptics to Edward Jenner's claims was Alfred Wallace who showed that the smallpox vaccine didn't bring down the diease and that doctors were misleading themselves. Wallace is credited with Charles Darwin to discover the theory of evolution.
viroliegy.com

Vaccination: Proved Useless And Dangerous (1889)

“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.” -Mark Twain People seem to fail to realize that the antivaccination movement is not a new thing. In fact, it has been…
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I can refer you to the antivaxxer thread.

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Nico, this kuk by you seriously impacts Brandolini's law. As does this:

Nicodeamus said:
that occured in New York and it was a mass scale iatrogenesis. China lobbied the WHO to put a ventilator protocol for Covid. Initially that killed patients and bursted their lungs.
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Brandolini's law, also known as the bullshit asymmetry principle, is an internet adage that emphasizes the effort of debunking misinformation, in comparison to the relative ease of creating it in the first place. It states that "The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than is needed to produce it."

I'm not prepared to be subjected to the bullshit asymmetry principle.

You are thus on ignore and I will only comment to debunk your rubbish when I feel like it.
 
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NarrowBandFtw said:
simple: a group of people that all hold similar opinions and riff off each other with that same opinion like we see in this thread ... with no consideration whatsoever for opinions that are not identical to theirs, that's an echo chamber

you don't actually need to belong to some club or even know each other to belong to the same echo chamber
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I'm independent and not part of a group. Which part of independent didn't you understand?
 
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