Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 2

[Cosmik Debris]

Looks just like South Africa, thank goodness the idiots here are too useless and stupid to attack anything but themselves.

Now you know why South Africa's nuclear weapons were destroyed with a sense of urgency before 1994.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

He refuses to sit down and negotiate terms
No need to be coy, Zelensky can end it, If he wants

Do you negotiate terms with someone who invades your home? What do you give him? The lounge, kitchen, bathroom or bedroom? Or do you chuck him out of your home using force?

 

[AfricanTech]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/vain9s

I would vote for an EU wide law to kick idiots like these pro-RF fascists out of EU.

Offer free, one way, passage to the territories they love so much.

 

[capd]

Do you negotiate terms with someone who invades your home? What do you give him? The lounge, kitchen, bathroom or bedroom? Or do you chuck him out of your home using force?

Certainly if they’re stronger than me and searching for Nazis, among other things.

 

[Mirai]

Certainly if they’re stronger than me and searching for Nazis, among other things.

And by Nazi they have already stated, as I have posted from the horse's mouth, that Ria Novosti article considers any independent minded person to be equivalent to a Nazi.

 

[Mirai]

Russia/China/India are my best clients so I have a vested interest in this war. Profits are soaring and I'm in the process of opening another arms manufacturing plant in Zambia.

You off your meds?

 

[Bonywasawarrioraway]

Correct. But Russia wants to have a say in who can apply and who NATO can choose as a member. How arrogant is that? It's got absolutely nothing to do with them.

Russia could apply to join too. But they would have to behave first.

True. But that would truly set the cat among the pigeons.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Russia/China/India are my best clients so I have a vested interest in this war. Profits are soaring and I'm in the process of opening another arms manufacturing plant in Zambia.

Another arms manufacturing plant in Zambia? Where is the present one? Where do you get steel in Zambia never mind weapons standard steel?

 

[ForceFate]

Certainly if they’re stronger than me and searching for Nazis, among other things.

They should have started in Krasnodar, where Wagner Group's base is located.

 

[Nicodeamus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1535754626099732482

Let's see if the sovereignty argument is going to sell to America.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Certainly if they’re stronger than me and searching for Nazis, among other things.

Yeah right. You would let anyone into your home, especially if they were looking for nonexistant Nazis and then give them a portion of the house.

Tell you what, Give me your address. I'll come looking for some Nazi's. I'll have the lounge please.

 

[sefeddt]

Russian propaganda.

Moscow, June 12 - AiF-Moscow.
Tatiana Moskalkova, Commissioner for Human Rights in Russia, said that the mothers of Ukrainian prisoners of war are asked not to return their sons. It is reported by RIA Novosti.
According to Moskalkova, the relatives of the soldiers fear that young people could be sent back to the places of hostilities.
“Today I receive new appeals from Ukrainian mothers. They ask not to return their sons, because they believe that they will either be re-sent to the front, or they will be subjected to repression,” she explained.
In addition, similar appeals were received from two soldiers who are currently in captivity.
Earlier, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky acknowledged the fact that 2,500 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were taken prisoner in the Mariupol industrial zone.
According to the head of Ukraine, the main intelligence department of the country's Defense Ministry is currently dealing with the issue of the exchange of prisoners.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1535754626099732482

Let's see if the sovereignty argument is going to sell to America.

Complete deflection as every Russian troop is needed in Ukraine with the losses they are sustaining.

 

[Mirai]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1535754626099732482

Let's see if the sovereignty argument is going to sell to America.

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Nico as usual supports scumbag governments.

Sending Russian troops there, if Russia could afford it, would be nothing but a troll.

It's telling that capd would probably not want to live in Nicaragua but would probably sell his kidneys for a green card and Nico chose Europe and especially France, deep in the bosom of American protection with US bases surrounding France so that France can be free. Last time France did things on her own she became a German Bantustan.

It's all cheap talk from our usual detractors.

Why is it that free countries don't want Russian troops but dictatorships pull those sorts of stunts?

 

[Temujin]

I have a Wolfsangel on my family coat of arms that predates Nazism by centuries. Does that make me a Nazi?

What are you trying to say here? Are you saying this ukranians swastika tattoo predates nazism? Just cos a young guy who lives in a country known to have a nazi problem happens to have a swastika tattoo, it doesn't mean hes a nazi... is that really the argument here?

 

[Mirai]

What are you trying to say here? Are you saying this ukranians swastika tattoo predates nazism? Just cos a young guy who lives in a country known to have a nazi problem happens to have a swastika tattoo, it doesn't mean hes a nazi... is that really the argument here?

Can you tell us about the Nazi problem?

Because you make it sound like they have a proto-Hitler there, with an SS, and they were massing troops to invade Russia.

RIA NOVOSTI article already addressed "Nazis",

The Nazis who took up arms should be destroyed to the maximum on the battlefield. There should be no significant differences between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the so-called national battalions, as well as the territorial defense that joined these two types of military formations. All of them are equally involved in extreme cruelty against the civilian population, equally guilty of the genocide of the Russian people, do not comply with the laws and customs of war. War criminals and active Nazis should be exemplarily and exponentially punished. There must be a total lustration. Any organizations that have associated themselves with the practice of Nazism should be liquidated and banned. However, in addition to the above mentioned, a significant part of the masses, which are passive Nazis, accomplices of Nazism, are also guilty. They supported and indulged Nazi government. The just punishment of this part of the population is possible only as bearing the inevitable hardships of a just war against the Nazi system, waged as carefully and prudently as possible in relation to civilians. Further denazification of this mass of the population consists in re-education, which is achieved by ideological repression (suppression) of Nazi attitudes and strict censorship: not only in the political sphere, but also necessarily in the sphere of culture and education. It was through culture and education that a deep mass nazification of the population was prepared and carried out, secured by the promise of dividends from the victory of the Nazi regime over Russia, Nazi propaganda, internal violence and terror, as well as the eight-year war with the people of Donbass who rebelled against Ukrainian Nazism.


Denazification can only be carried out by the winner, which implies (1) his absolute control over the denazification process and (2) the power to ensure such control. In this respect, a denazified country cannot be sovereign. The denazifying state – Russia – cannot proceed from a liberal approach with regard to denazification. The ideology of the denazifier cannot be disputed by the guilty party subjected to denazification. Russia’s recognition of the need to denazify Ukraine means the recognition of the impossibility of the Crimean scenario for Ukraine as a whole. However, this scenario was impossible in 2014 and in the rebellious Donbass. Only eight years of resistance to Nazi violence and terror led to internal cohesion and a conscious unambiguous mass refusal to maintain any unity and connection with Ukraine, which defined itself as a Nazi society.


The duration of denazification can in no way be less than one generation, which must be born, grow up and reach maturity under the conditions of denazification. The nazification of Ukraine continued for more than 30 years, beginning at least in 1989, when Ukrainian nationalism received legal and legitimate forms of political expression and led the movement for “independence” towards Nazism.

In your own words, please explain what us Ukraines's Nazi problem. Do you agree with the Russian interpretation or do you have your own?

Because as you can see they consider Ukrainian independence per se, from 1989 (their date, not mine) to be the start of "Nazification".

We all know this has nothing to do with actual Third Reich NSDAP Nazis. Israeli volunteers are fighting FOR KYIV and Zelenskyy is a Jew, all the while the Chief Rabbi of Moscow is in exile because he was being coerced to support the Russian war.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

What are you trying to say here? Are you saying this ukranians swastika tattoo predates nazism? Just cos a young guy who lives in a country known to have a nazi problem happens to have a swastika tattoo, it doesn't mean hes a nazi... is that really the argument here?

The Swastika does predate Nazism. It's a Buddhist symbol of peace that was misappropriated by the Nazis like the Wolfsangel and Sig Runes (SS) of the ancient Germanic and Norse Futhark Runic alphabet.

Your argument is fallacious. A symbol does not mean the person is an adherent to the commonly misunderstood misappropriation.

The swastika symbol, 卐 or 卍, is an ancient religious symbol, predominantly in various Eurasian, as well as some African and American cultures, now also widely recognized for its appropriation by the Nazi Party and by neo-Nazis. It continues to be used as a symbol of divinity and spirituality in Indian religions, including Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

Swastika - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Temujin]

The Swastika does predate Nazism. It's a Buddhist symbol of peace that was misappropriated by the Nazis like the Wolfsangel and Sig Runes (SS) of the ancient Germanic and Norse Futhark Runic alphabet.

Your argument is fallacious. A symbol does not mean the person is an adherent to the commonly misunderstood misappropriation.

The swastika symbol, 卐 or 卍, is an ancient religious symbol, predominantly in various Eurasian, as well as some African and American cultures, now also widely recognized for its appropriation by the Nazi Party and by neo-Nazis. It continues to be used as a symbol of divinity and spirituality in Indian religions, including Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

Swastika - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And so, #notrealnazis it is, I'm sure hes just a buddist monk looking for a place to meditate

 

[MiW]

Loony

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1535907653406412801

 

[MiW]

And so, #notrealnazis it is, I'm sure hes just a buddist monk looking for a place to meditate

What is the point of showing a person in one country with a swastika, I would guess that every country on earth has citizens , soldiers, prisoners with swastika tattoos .
Showing just one example , being that Ukrainian, Russian, Afrikaans person, UK , USA and so on, just makes you peddling propaganda in one or other direction.