Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 2

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ForceFate

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You will only ever have these piss poor analogies to support your conspiracy theories until the Putin idiot actually takes over Kiev and installs a new leader.


I am sure you can climb off your high horse and forgive me for referring to Putin as "Putin Shite". And I don't care about accusations from people that push conspiracy theories that cannot ever be debunked. But hey, good luck, when the Putin idiot actually takes over Kiev and installs a new leader then you can come back and say "hah, told ya so". Good luck with that one.
Denial is no valid argument. It's not a conspiracy theory that claimed he'd take Kyiv in 2 weeks back in 2014.
MOSCOW (Reuters) - A reported comment by President Vladimir Putin that Russia could capture Ukraine’s capital Kiev within two weeks was taken out of context, Itar-Tass news agency quoted a Kremlin foreign policy aide as saying on Tuesday.

It quoted Yuri Ushakov as saying that whether or not those words were spoken, the quote “was taken out of context and had a totally different meaning”.

It's also not a conspiracy theory that Russia is attempting to hold referendums like they did in Crimea.
 

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Denial is no valid argument. It's not a conspiracy theory that claimed he'd take Kyiv in 2 weeks back in 2014.


It's also not a conspiracy theory that Russia is attempting to hold referendums like they did in Crimea.
Wow, so the best you have is a quote from Putin doing the Kabuki dance ( and Putin is notoriously dishonest remember, NOW you want to take him serious) and a document stating what he is basically doing now i.e. taking over south east of Ukraine. And you use this to support the conspiracy theory that Putin will actually rake over Kiev and cause regime change.

This is comedy gold. Do proceed.
 

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that is funny enough for some people still believe zelensky will win the war .....

that is exactly the same the people believe anc will fix the problems they created.
 

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Wow, so the best you have is a quote from Putin doing the Kabuki dance ( and Putin is notoriously dishonest remember, NOW you want to take him serious) and a document stating what he is basically doing now i.e. taking over south east of Ukraine. And you use this to support the conspiracy theory that Putin will actually rake over Kiev and cause regime change.

This is comedy gold. Do proceed.
So, the usual denials and obfuscations it is.
 

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Pointless continuing with this conversation when all you do is bring banal objections.
Please don't stop trying to convince people that the Real Putin Plan™ was and/or is to take over Kiev and install a new puppet leader.

Do it for the laughs man.
 

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Wow, so the best you have is a quote from Putin doing the Kabuki dance ( and Putin is notoriously dishonest remember, NOW you want to take him serious) and a document stating what he is basically doing now i.e. taking over south east of Ukraine. And you use this to support the conspiracy theory that Putin will actually rake over Kiev and cause regime change.

This is comedy gold. Do proceed.

He said he would take it in 2 weeks. It's your boss who's dishonest, if you say so. Sucks to be you.
 

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Former Crimean Prosecutor Natalya Poklonskaya has been dismissed from her post in the Russian government, weeks after criticizing Moscow’s war in Ukraine.

President Vladimir Putin removed Poklonskaya from her post as the deputy head of Rossotrudnichestvo, Russia’s federal agency for international outreach, on Monday.

The 42-year-old took up the role in February 2022, after declining to run for a second term as a deputy for the ruling United Russia party in Russia’s lower house of parliament.

On her Telegram channel, Poklonskaya said that she would be "moving to another job" and thanked the president for his "support and trust."

Poklonskaya’s dismissal comes after the former lawmaker spoke out against Moscow’s invasion of her native Ukraine, calling it a “catastrophe.”

“People are dying, houses and entire cities are destroyed [leaving] millions of refugees. Bodies and souls are mutilated. My heart is bursting with pain.”

“My two native countries are killing each other, that’s not what I wanted and it’s not what I want,” she said in a video address to an international forum in April.

She later criticized the spread of Russia’s pro-war Z symbol, which has been prominently displayed on buildings, merchandise and even cakes to symbolize the public’s support for Russian troops in Ukraine.


 

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Please don't stop trying to convince people that the Real Putin Plan™ was and/or is to take over Kiev and install a new puppet leader.

Do it for the laughs man.

They sure as heck sent their military all the way up to Kyiv. Maybe they were just visiting. Who knows.
 

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When Russia was booted out of the international payments network Swift, for example, China was expected to step in and build an alternative in alliance with Moscow’s central bank.

But, says Ash, “President Xi is angry because Putin lied about his intentions towards Ukraine. Now the invasion has gone ahead, it has triggered a cost-of-living crisis in China that makes worse Xi’s other economic problems.” Also, he adds, “Xi doesn’t want to upset the US too much.”

Yakov Feygin, a Russia expert at the Berggruen Institute in the US, agrees that China has rejected Putin’s overtures to circumvent sanctions. India is also likely to be wary of sanctions-busting, he says. “It was a major flaw in Putin’s strategy to think China would bail him out. It was a colossal delusion.”

 

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They sure as heck sent their military all the way up to Kyiv. Maybe they were just visiting. Who knows.
Yeah man, they flattened whole neighourhoods and destroyed key infrastructure with their long range of artillery just like they are doing now in East Ukraine... Wait wait, no they only discovered they could actually do all that after they left Kiev and moved their troops to East Ukraine. If only they knew back then...
 
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