Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 2

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MiW

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Says in 2021 USA spent $801 billion vs Russia $66 billion.

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I led talks on Donbas and Crimea in the 90s. Here’s how the war should end.

After the USSR’s breakup, the OSCE knew that the large number of Russian speakers in Ukraine would become an issue.

As the war in Ukraine continues to take thousands of lives, distressingly little attention is being devoted to bringing it to an end.

Negotiations are stalled, and other governments are not pushing for a resumption. At some point, however, hopefully sooner than later, there will be a negotiated settlement that will need to deal with the Donbas region in Eastern Ukraine. The Donbas was the focus of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s decree he issued three days before invading recognizing the claimed separate status of the region’s two provinces.

A Russian exit could come sooner if Moscow can find a way to claim success in promoting the status of the Russian speaking population of the Donbas. The situation of the Russian speaking population in the eastern reaches of Ukraine first drew international attention in 1994, not in the Donbas, but in Crimea, a peninsula jutting out into the Black Sea.

The Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe, which shortly thereafter was re-named Organization on Security and Co-operation in Europe, understood that the existence of clusters of Russian speakers in newly independent states on Russia’s periphery was a recipe for conflict. The situation was reminiscent of how the stranding of populations of German speakers after the World War I collapse of the German and Austrian empires helped bring about World War II. These Russians were the object of resentment as adherents of a formerly unwelcome ruler just as the Germans had been. The Conference began quiet efforts in preventive diplomacy, to convince the newly independent states to treat their Russian populations fairly.

Crimea was a particular focus of the Conference’s attention. The Conference asked three of its member states — Germany, Italy, and the United States — each to appoint an “expert on constitutional matters” to “facilitate the dialogue between the Central Government and Crimean authorities concerning the autonomous status of the Republic of Crimea within Ukraine.” I was appointed by the U.S. State Department.

 

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I was thinking more an M777 round down the throat instead, it would be more spectacular.
Something to note about the M777 rounds. They are significantly more lethal compared to Russian shells. This is due to when the west abandoning cluster munitions and improving the lethality of their artillery to compensate while Russia still uses cluster munitions they therefor spent no effort to improve their artillery rounds.

 

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So Turkey blocked Finland and Sweden

Why can't they just kick Turkey out of Nato, I mean come on Turkey is as Russian aligned as it gets.
Turkey is absolutely not Russia aligned, they are having big amount of proxi conflicts all over the map.
Reasons for Turkey mediating is Gas, oil , wheat and other economic factors benefiting Turkey it's self.
Otherwise they are loving watching Russia going down.
The NATO think is about Erdogan dictatorship and squashing his opposition , which he claims are terrorists and Sweden doesn't agree.
 
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