Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 2

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surface

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Does your local Somali speak on behalf of his nation? :unsure:
Just shut your mouth. Apart from being lovingly awarded various honorary names from local isizulu people, CD is a honorary somali citizen. He got the honor from local somalis due to his extensive work against piracy (not digital but actually in the waters of Somalia)
 

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Calling this America's proxy war makes it sound like America started this war. They did not. Russia crossed Ukraine's border. Not the other way round. As they have done repeatedly over the last while. The USA is providing material support to a nation that was invaded by another. Russia can't exactly whine about that too much as in WW2 once Germany crossed Russia's borders the US gave the same type of aid to Russia! Can't have to be a good thing when you need it but not when you are now the aggressor. If the USA wants to help the Ukrainians take Russia down a notch I am all for it. Perhaps it will teach them to stop invading neighbors, and will make any imperial ambitions of China cool down too.

The USA using the NED overthrow the government of Ukraine in 2005 during the "orange revolution" and then in 2014 they supported the right wing government and help instigate the Maidan coup d'etat. To suggest that there is no regime change going on when John McCain and Lindsay Graham were seen handing out weapons and Victoria Nuland caught trying to handpick a proUS government is absurd.

Yes Russia in their own turn caused instability in the dombas region, but the US is by no means innocent in this matter.

But then the administrations of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden ruined our great peace and victory at the end of the last Cold War. Instead, they got us into this mess. This was primarily due to the policies of NATO expansion, tearing up important nuclear treaties, the installation of missile defense systems in Eastern Europe, overthrowing multiple governments friendly to Russia, including Ukraine twice in 10 years, spending the last 5 years sending sophisticated arms to Ukraine and increasing harassment by American Navy ships and Air Force planes in the Black, Baltic and Okhotsk seas
 

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How it started:

How it's going:
 

Grant

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No need to get all defensive because the "rooigevaar" conspiracy theorists turned out to be right
Well no.
Turns out it was themselves who were under their own beds.

A long awaited coming out party ensued
 

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The USA using the NED overthrow the government of Ukraine in 2005 during the "orange revolution" and then in 2014 they supported the right wing government and help instigate the Maidan coup d'etat. To suggest that there is no regime change going on when John McCain and Lindsay Graham were seen handing out weapons and Victoria Nuland caught trying to handpick a proUS government is absurd.

Yes Russia in their own turn caused instability in the dombas region, but the US is by no means innocent in this matter.

You forgot to mention Bill Gates again.
 
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