Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 2

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buka001

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The USA using the NED overthrow the government of Ukraine in 2005 during the "orange revolution" and then in 2014 they supported the right wing government and help instigate the Maidan coup d'etat. To suggest that there is no regime change going on when John McCain and Lindsay Graham were seen handing out weapons and Victoria Nuland caught trying to handpick a proUS government is absurd.

Yes Russia in their own turn caused instability in the dombas region, but the US is by no means innocent in this matter.
Can't keep up with all the coup's.
 

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The USA using the NED overthrow the government of Ukraine in 2005 during the "orange revolution" and then in 2014 they supported the right wing government and help instigate the Maidan coup d'etat. To suggest that there is no regime change going on when John McCain and Lindsay Graham were seen handing out weapons and Victoria Nuland caught trying to handpick a proUS government is absurd.

Yes Russia in their own turn caused instability in the dombas region, but the US is by no means innocent in this matter.
And Russia in all probability got Trump over the line. Does that justify the US invading Russia tomorrow? The one side is politics. The other side is war. Stop equating them. Russia are killers. Everyone will try use diplomacy and shenanigans to influence things on the geopolitical sphere to their benefit. Only a few nations cross the war line. I know the USA has crossed that line too, especially in Iraq and I do not support what they did there but in this conflict its Russia that is playing that role and the USA is helping the nation being invaded. Whatever else the USA may have done wrong in the past in this instance they are standing behind the underdog. The other Eastern European countries that are sending more support than they can afford also says something. They know better than we ever will what its like to be under a Russian boot and they are trying to stop Russia in Ukraine before they roll into the rest of Eastern Europe.
 

Grant

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Methinks Russia could end this all very quickly.
All they really need to do is send that feat of Russian engineering, known as Admiral Kuznetov, to Mariupol (if they can gather enough tugs to keep towing it as it breaks down).

The mere sight of the filthy Admiral will send shock waves thru Europe and across the Atlantic, driving people to seek cleaner air down disused mine shafts and sewerage processing facilities.

Na Zdorovie
Problem solved
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And Russia in all probability got Trump over the line. Does that justify the US invading Russia tomorrow? The one side is politics. The other side is war. Stop equating them. Russia are killers. Everyone will try use diplomacy and shenanigans to influence things on the geopolitical sphere to their benefit. Only a few nations cross the war line. I know the USA has crossed that line too, especially in Iraq and I do not support what they did there but in this conflict its Russia that is playing that role and the USA is helping the nation being invaded. Whatever else the USA may have done wrong in the past in this instance they are standing behind the underdog. The other Eastern European countries that are sending more support than they can afford also says something. They know better than we ever will what its like to be under a Russian boot and they are trying to stop Russia in Ukraine before they roll into the rest of Eastern Europe.

I summarised your tl/dr post

The US are krunts. Russia are krunts. But let's forgive the US. Russia are krunts
 
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