Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 2

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ToxicBunny

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of course it is a surrender, but that cuts through the narrative that Russia is losing the war.

Hardly say it cuts through the narrative...

Yes its a surrender, but it was what 260 odd soldiers who had held out against the mighty Russian army for how long? I would say that even though they've surrendered its still a huge embarrassment for Vlads boys.
 

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Hardly say it cuts through the narrative...

Yes its a surrender, but it was what 260 odd soldiers who had held out against the mighty Russian army for how long? I would say that even though they've surrendered its still a huge embarrassment for Vlads boys.
They were using civilians are human shields, the Russians showed restrained to not flatten the plant.
 

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It's not worse, but let's face it Ukraine is turning into a Geopolitical mess, because of the interference of foreign powers.

I suppose that my posts made sense and you were curious. Nice talking to you again :).

The only power that interfered by invading Ukraine is Russia...
 

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Nazis Are Actually Fine Now, According to the Southern Poverty Law Center and Anti-Defamation League

If you happened to be alive during the years of 2016 to 2020, you can probably recall the routine issuance of frantic bulletins that “Nazis” were suddenly on the march in the US. Not just that some ludicrous, ragtag group of self-identified Nazis could be occasionally spotted in the wild — which had always been a somewhat regular, albeit freakish occurrence. Rather, the idea was that full-bore ideological “Nazism” had surged as a genuinely formidable political force, and everyone needed to be extremely terrified of this.


Principally responsible for the alleged outbreak of pro-Nazi fervor, or so the prevailing theory went, was Donald Trump. He had either tacitly or deliberately fueled the Nazis’ rise, because associating himself with Nazis would definitely be a huge boon to his electoral fortunes. MSNBC anchor Joy Reid encapsulated this view when she warned in 2017 that “resurgent Neo-Nazism” had gripped the US under Trump’s rule. Reams of academic articles were published on the subject, wondering whether Trump was the new “American Führer”; it was a commonly-held belief that “Literal Nazis” had taken power. (As opposed to figurative Nazis). Evidence for the theory ranged from the individual emotional turmoil experienced by journalists, to Twitter trolls with cartoon frogs as their profile pictures, to allusive suggestions — including by former apparatchiks of the National Security State — that the existence of immigrant detention centers was proof a Nazi regime had seized the reins of state.

This fearful narrative was propelled by episodes which may now appear somewhat farcical in hindsight, but at the time were taken deadly seriously. One example was an alleged spate of anti-semitic hate crimes that occurred in 2017 — a series of “bomb threat” phone calls were placed to Jewish Community Centers. Even before any details had surfaced about the identity of the suspects, an outfit called the “Anne Frank Center” hysterically attributed personal responsibility for the incidents to Trump. Fans of dark humor were no doubt thrilled when it later emerged that the bomb threats had in fact been called in by a teenager in Israel, as well as a deranged former Intercept journalist — and not some MAGA-hat guy sitting in a corrugated shack in the backwoods of Arkansas. (The “Anne Frank Center” was being run at the time by a hardcore partisan Democratic operative in New Jersey, whom I personally met years ago when he was running a pro-LGBT group. Let’s just say the individual is a tad… excitable. Still, this individual’s bombastic anti-Trump screeds were credulously portrayed by media outlets as carrying the solemn moral weight of the fabled Holocaust victim.)

 

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Yeah, it's not funny when you edit it that much.

Try harder dave.

I didn't edit Mr Pinny, I merely selected the part of your post I was replying to. Edit would infer I added something to your post, which I didn't.
 

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They were using civilians are human shields, the Russians showed restrained to not flatten the plant.

They were?

Do you have any evidence of this civilian human shield claim?

And the Russians showed restraint? Dude get your head out of Vlads rectal cavity with that crap.
 

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Did Russia stage the 2014 coup d'état and arm hits quads to terrorize the Russian speaking minority with actions that includes burning 30 people alive in a burning?

Did Russia invade the country in 2014?
 

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They were using civilians are human shields, the Russians showed restrained to not flatten the plant.

But what should the Martians who were using Koalas as marsupial shields? The Klingons also showed restraint to not flatten their planet.
 

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So you admit the Nazi label is a made up accusation then? Read your source again:

If you happened to be alive during the years of 2016 to 2020, you can probably recall the routine issuance of frantic bulletins that “Nazis” were suddenly on the march in the US. Not just that some ludicrous, ragtag group of self-identified Nazis could be occasionally spotted in the wild — which had always been a somewhat regular, albeit freakish occurrence. Rather, the idea was that full-bore ideological “Nazism” had surged as a genuinely formidable political force, and everyone needed to be extremely terrified of this.
 

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So you admit the Nazi label is a made up accusation then? Read your source again:

If you happened to be alive during the years of 2016 to 2020, you can probably recall the routine issuance of frantic bulletins that “Nazis” were suddenly on the march in the US. Not just that some ludicrous, ragtag group of self-identified Nazis could be occasionally spotted in the wild — which had always been a somewhat regular, albeit freakish occurrence. Rather, the idea was that full-bore ideological “Nazism” had surged as a genuinely formidable political force, and everyone needed to be extremely terrified of this.

The US press has a habit of seeing Nazis everywhere to the extent that they cannot see them when they do the following.
1. Use antiemetic slogans
2. wear swastikas'
3. kill civilians.
4. shoot prisoners of war.
 

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Did Russia stage the 2014 coup d'état and arm hits quads to terrorize the Russian speaking minority with actions that includes burning 30 people alive in a burning?

This has been debunked several times on the old and on this thread. You need to take note of things that are pointed out to you instead of going into denial.
 

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NATO enlargement: Turkey objects as Sweden, Finland seek membership • FRANCE 24 English​

 
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