Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 4

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Don't worry, the USA will print some money and swoop in to save your industries for pennies on the Dollar.

Or you know, just buy oil from us here in the US. Win for the USA:


The biggest winner in this Ukraine war looks to be the USA and biggest loser appears to be Europe.
Bwahahaha.. Russia isn't winning fsck all.
 

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Now, clearly — and I’ve talked about this many times — they have not — they have not overcome struggles and challenges with respect to command and control, logistics and sustainment, unit cohesion, integration of air and ground. I mean, they — they have met with many problems of their own making in Ukraine. There’s no question about that. But it’s still a very large and very powerful military. And Mr. Putin still has an awful lot of military capacity left at his disposal, not just to be used in Ukraine, but potentially elsewhere.

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I don't think anyone has denied that, but Ukraine has shown that a smaller, well equipped military can give Russia more than just a bloody nose..
 

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It was mentioned a while back that Putin has been increasingly sidelining his military and taken a more active role and plans in Russia's invasion, this took place before the latest Ukraine offensive which means the latest setbacks for the invaders happened under his watch. Previous senior military have been fired and arrested for the same.
 

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It was mentioned a while back that Putin has been increasingly sidelining his military and taken a more active role and plans in Russia's invasion, this took place before the latest Ukraine offensive which means the latest setbacks for the invaders happened under his watch. Previous senior military have been fired and arrested for the same.
Echoes of Hitler in WW2.
 

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I disagree. I think Putin has very real issues in manpower and equipment now.
Why else would he be begging for equipment and fighting men from idiots.
Why would he be blanket conscripting from captured areas and prisons... The worst kind of conscript you can have.

The reserve force he put together was smaller than expected and routed in days.
50K+ Dead so far means in excess of 250K in total that are killed/prisoner/wounded. 2 years worth of intake.
Also you cannot just replace with new intake. Leadership/officers take time to train. Modern equipment takes time to train.

To do this properly he actually has to make this a "war" and that creates @home problems for him.
Atm Russia is the biggest arms supplier to Ukraine.....
 
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From the political party who brought you the eskom crisis. Say thank you to ramaphosa in your stage 6 load shedding while he tells us how good russia is :

 

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From the political party who brought you the eskom crisis. Say thank you to ramaphosa in your stage 6 load shedding while he tells us how good russia is :

This is our leader, who's spine is made of Jelly, much like all our leaders
 

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From the political party who brought you the eskom crisis. Say thank you to ramaphosa in your stage 6 load shedding while he tells us how good russia is :


The absolute fscking audactiy.

Cyril you fscking numpty, Russia is not our friend, they will fsck us over for far less than the USA would, and far faster...
 

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The absolute fscking audactiy.

Cyril you fscking numpty, Russia is not our friend, they will fsck us over for far less than the USA would, and far faster...

This.

Spineless and dumb. What good qualities that is to have in a president. The best the ANC has to offer us.
Russia doesn't care a fig about anyone in Africa. Cyril is a sub-human to Putin, but Cyril wants to be his friend.
 

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This.

Spineless and dumb. What good qualities that is to have in a president. The best the ANC has to offer us.
Russia doesn't care a fig about anyone in Africa. Cyril is a sub-human to Putin, but Cyril wants to be his friend.

Oh to be fair, Russia does give a shyte about Africa.. in so much as they want to extract what they can from the continent and fsck everyone who actually lives here.

I would actually rank the Russians as worse than the Chinese in that respect.
 

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The absolute fscking audactiy.

Cyril you fscking numpty, Russia is not our friend, they will fsck us over for far less than the USA would, and far faster...
You got crystal ball or did it happen earlier?

In current circumstances, where Ruyter has indicated gas option, is it not diplomatic to keep ties with Russia?

Or we should be patriotic and ask people to suffer more for their country?
 

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I disagree. I think Putin has very real issues in manpower and equipment now.
Why else would he be begging for equipment and fighting men from idiots.
Why would he be blanket conscripting from captured areas and prisons... The worst kind of conscript you can have.

The reserve force he put together was smaller than expected and routed in days.
50K+ Dead so far means in excess of 250K in total that are killed/prisoner/wounded. 2 years worth of intake.
Also you cannot just replace with new intake. Leadership/officers take time to train. Modern equipment takes time to train.

To do this properly he actually has to make this a "war" and that creates @home problems for him.
Atm Russia is the biggest arms supplier to Ukraine.....
I think Kirby was refering to Russia's navy (which is still mostly intact) and it's airforce (which is a little less intact). It's army is f*cked. Russia won't be able to make any territorial gains, but it can still project power with its nuclear, sea and air forces.
 
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