Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 4

[Mirai]

Nico: The risk of low level radiation is insignificant.

Debris: so why aren't you living there?

So ****ing dumb!

Are you and Nico not one account?

 

[Paulsie]

I would hazard a guess that Ukraine hasn't actually shelled the reactors then?

Why aren't there images of Russia doing the shelling?

 

[Mirai]

Why aren't there images of Russia doing the shelling?

Russia claimed Ukraine is shelling them. Russia must prove this.

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

Yeah you obviously don't think about the retarded shyte you write before posting it...

I had initially formulated a response to OP because the post is blatantly either silly or a joke, but decided rather not.

The guys is so far gone, it would be like arguing with a brick - so I decided to simply agree with your sentiment.

 

[Paulsie]

Given the world is round, Russia is also encircling the US.

Is UK Russian yet? Did Putin really get that far?

 

[Nicodeamus]

I think he's talking about accummulated mutations in successive generations of offspring. Knocking out anti-oncogenes can have effects further down the line. If your gametes are injured those errors will be passed on to further generations. Oncogenesis is a multi-step process.

That doesn't occur at low dose radiation..... the basis for it is the LNT model....

ALARA causes and reinforces excessive fear of low dose radiation - Atomic Insights

The current practice for controlling ionizing radiation exposures is ALARA – (As Low As Reasonably Achievable). This practice is based on acceptance of the

atomicinsights.com

The LNT model is justified based on the assumption that DNA damage and mutations are caused by even very low levels of radiation and increased mutations would result in increased cancers, using the somatic mutation model of cancer. Both of these notions underlying the LNT model have turned out to be wrong.2 Whereas there would be an increase in DNA damage shortly after exposure to low-dose radiation (LDR, there would also be enhanced bodily defenses such as increased production of antioxidants and DNA repair enzymes, collectively referred to as adaptive protection.3

Because of the boosted defenses, there would be less of the naturally occurring DNA damage in the subsequent period, with the net result being reduced overall DNA damage and mutations following exposure to LDR.2 Also, there is plenty of evidence against the mutation model of cancer.2 Thus, since the two concepts underlying the LNT model are not valid, the model is not justifiable. Hence, the concept of ALARA, which is based on the LNT model, should not be used in medical imaging, considering that medical imaging involves LDR exposures only.

 

[Paulsie]

I think he's talking about accummulated mutations in successive generations of offspring. Knocking out anti-oncogenes can have effects further down the line. If your gametes are injured those errors will be passed on to further generations. Oncogenesis is a multi-step process.

It's called sarcasm. And he should be more specific. But either way, he has absolutely no proof for his opinion.

He just likes to make wild long term predictions, like everybody with covid who's unvaccinated will suffer serious health issues later on in their lives.

He is the one who always asks for proof yet NEVER provides one himself.

 

[Paulsie]

Russia claimed Ukraine is shelling them. Russia must prove this.

The claim was satellites can track shelling. Russia is accused of endangering the NP due to shelling, yet no pictures are available.

One side blames the other; it should be so easy to prove.

 

[Nicodeamus]

It's called sarcasm. And he should be more specific. But either way, he has absolutely no proof for his opinion.

He just likes to make wild long term predictions, like everybody with covid who's unvaccinated will suffer serious health issues later on in their lives.

He is the one who always asks for proof yet NEVER provides one himself.

He falls back on authority, because he doesn't have the ability or willingness to attempt to understand the literature.

 

[Paulsie]

Are you and Nico not one account?

No, but I know a dumb comment when I see one.

 

[Mirai]

ALARA causes and reinforces excessive fear of low dose radiation - Atomic Insights

The current practice for controlling ionizing radiation exposures is ALARA – (As Low As Reasonably Achievable). This practice is based on acceptance of the

atomicinsights.com

I see disagreement in letters to an editor I don't see any established facts. I also don't see this being applied to every possible scenario in Ukraine.

 

[Nicodeamus]

I see disagreement in letters to an editor I don't see any established facts. I also don't see this being applied to every possible scenario in Ukraine.

the debate in the literature is if the LNT model is valid. We actually know that there is good evidence to suggest that it is wrong.
It's applicable to Ukraine given that the background radiation at Chernobyl is about the same as Ramsar in Iran and other places where people live with elevated levels.

 

[Mirai]

It's called sarcasm. And he should be more specific. But either way, he has absolutely no proof for his opinion.

He just likes to make wild long term predictions, like everybody with covid who's unvaccinated will suffer serious health issues later on in their lives.

He is the one who always asks for proof yet NEVER provides one himself.

I don't think anyone ever claimed all unvaccinated people would face serious health issues.

 

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not everyone gets their memes from the Latvian parliament

 

[Nicodeamus]

I don't think anyone ever claimed all unvaccinated people would face serious health issues.

it was claimed that the vaccine will protect you, after 4 boosters and multiple reinfections it should be clear as daylight that it was one fat lie.

Remember this nugget from the CDC?

Unvaccinated are 11 times more likely to die of COVID-19: CDC study

Unvaccinated people face a far greater chance of death from the COVID-19 delta variant, according to a new study from the Centers for Disease Control.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Mirai]

the debate in the literature is if the LNT model is valid. We actually know that there is good evidence to suggest that it is wrong.

OK there is good evidence you claim to suggest it is wrong. To suggest and good evidence. This is not enough to claim it is wrong.

It's applicable to Ukraine given that the background radiation at Chernobyl is about the same as Ramsar in Iran and other places where people live with elevated levels.

SPECULATION.

 

[CommonSense]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561274109878738945

The the passenger in the twat's car (who share his Zwastika view no doubt) goes and posts it on the internet to show how f-ing dumb they are.

 

[Mirai]

it was claimed that the vaccine will protect you, after 4 boosters and multiple reinfections it should be clear as daylight that it was one fat lie.

Nobody claimed it would ever DEFINITIVELY protect you.

 

[Nicodeamus]

OK there is good evidence you claim to suggest it is wrong. To suggest and good evidence. This is not enough to claim it is wrong.



SPECULATION.

There is no good evidence, the uncertainty lies in what the limit should be. The "fallback is the LNT model that we know is conservative, yet wrong" i.e. it has a safety factor.

 

[Paulsie]

I don't think anyone ever claimed all unvaccinated people would face serious health issues.

Ask your friend @Cosmik Debris for confirmation. I really don't feel like looking for the post.

And FYI, I double asked him, just to be sure.