Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 4

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Cray said:
Because all the reasons given for this invasion are ridiculous and anyone supporting the invasion of another sovereign country based on those reasons has a whole lot of work to do to restore whatever credibility they might once have had?
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So Free speech is banned globally then
 
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He, she or it does seem to only tweet pro-Russo propaganda, but then the ones posted here as "evidence" of Ukraine winning are also swallowing canned western views of the war. Putin was wrong to start the war he was never going to win and he's caused a lot of hardship for the world with that. The west's response has been disproportionate with ewc of people's **** because they may be allied with Russia. Banning of sports people for expressing sympathy with Russia, etc. All very hypocritical when they before this let a lot of worse **** slide.
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I don't think many people here seriously think Ukraine is "winning" in the traditional sense. Winning in this context is a war of attrition that tries to make sure that any Russian gains are achieved with the maximum payment in terms of men and equipment. The idea isn't to beat the Russians, it's to make the cost of continuing the war too high.

Nico however seems to think that Ukraine should somehow have avoided fighting at all, that the mere fact of them resisting an invading army is somehow immoral. Most pro-Ukraine people here accept that Ukraine is not perfect, that some of their nazis are very problematic but that existence of those problems doesn't change that supporting them over Russia is clearly the correct moral choice. I think Nico has called Putin unstable and a dictator but the vast majority of articles that he posts here follow the Russian line of thinking, they blame the war on NATO provocation, perpetuate the BS about the supposed coup in 2014, and does everything possible to deflect responsibility for this war from the only country that deserves it, Russia.
 
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greg0205 said:
Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.

Power play assassinations and suicides will continue until morale improves.
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I read the whole Ria (let me link it here) article. It is fascinating in how much detail they go into how the FSB tracked everything down. Almost too much detail as if they were trying to make sure no one questions the article.

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ФСБ раскрыла убийство Дарьи Дугиной

Федеральная служба безопасности раскрыла убийство журналистки Дарьи Дугиной, сообщил Центр общественных связей ведомства. РИА Новости, 22.08.2022
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Matata said:
I read the whole Ria (let me link it here) article. It is fascinating in how much detail they go into how the FSB tracked everything down. Almost too much detail as if they were trying to make sure no one questions the article.

ria.ru

ФСБ раскрыла убийство Дарьи Дугиной

Федеральная служба безопасности раскрыла убийство журналистки Дарьи Дугиной, сообщил Центр общественных связей ведомства. РИА Новости, 22.08.2022
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Kinda like three SIMS, but yeah, those are fascinating details the FSB uncovered when they investigated the FSB who tried to assassinate Dugin.
 
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Cray said:
I don't think many people here seriously think Ukraine is "winning" in the traditional sense. Winning in this context is a war of attrition that tries to make sure that any Russian gains are achieved with the maximum payment in terms of men and equipment. The idea isn't to beat the Russians, it's to make the cost of continuing the war too high.

Nico however seems to think that Ukraine should somehow have avoided fighting at all, that the mere fact of them resisting an invading army is somehow immoral.
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I would pay to see Ukraine beat the Russians in Ukraine and then cross the border to beat them inside Russia as well, just to watch Nico turn god-mode retarded.
 
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Pak Fa Fui said:
Effectively any person worth their weight has to support Ukraine in fear of being ostracised and publicly shamed
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Well if you want to support the deliberate slaughter/rape/assault of women/men and children you deserve everything that comes to you. If the shoe fits wear it.
I am not saying you cant support them ( free speech or whatever you want to call it ). You can do whatever you want.
 
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