Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 5

[tetrasect]

same logic to those 4 regions joined russia last week ............

did russia hold a gun to their heads and force them to join russia or did those regions ask to join?

Russia literally held a gun to their head and killed them. Then they held a gun to the next guys head and killed them as well.

Then they asked the third guy to vote.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Which is what happened in the Yugoslavia wars and NATO stepped in to enact those resolutions.

you mean NATO unilaterally started a war that they had F-ALL business in ... yes I agree that happened

 

[Sneeky]

Re the Rand report.

Fake RAND Report on 'Weakening Germany'​

FOR RELEASE
Wednesday
September 14, 2022
A supposedly leaked RAND report about a bizarre U.S. conspiracy to “weaken Germany” is fake.
Genuine RAND research, analysis, and commentary on the war in Ukraine may be found at this page.
Given the potential origins of this fake document, we encourage you to explore this resource on the “firehose of falsehood” approach to propaganda and RAND's extensive research on “Truth Decay,” a phenomenon driven in part by the spread of disinformation.

Fake RAND Report on 'Weakening Germany'

A supposedly leaked RAND report about a bizarre U.S. conspiracy to “weaken Germany” is fake. Genuine RAND research, analysis, and commentary on the war in Ukraine may be found at rand.org.

www.rand.org

They are absolutely refering to the report @MunosMachos is referencing.

These point out the inconsistencies and obvious errors, and detail on the people that published it as fact initially.

Fake: US Planned Conflict and Energy Crisis in Europe - Rand Corp. Document

The RAND Corporation analytical center categorically denied the authenticity of the "document" circulated online. Russian media are disseminating stories claiming the United States allegedly planned an armed conflict and energy crisis in Europe. A "shocking document" by the RAND Corporation, a U

www.stopfake.org

Double Check: Nya Dagbladet Publishes Fake RAND Document About Ukraine

Swedish outlet Nya Dagbladet published a fake RAND report, claiming it showed that the U.S. planned the war in Ukraine. Christian Haag debunks the story.

www.logically.ai

 

[buka001]

NATO declined Ukraine's application just last week, they decline stuff all the time

check your facts

Did they?

Do you have an official response from NATO rejecting the application last week?

 

[wingnut771]

Putin at one point asked to join NATO. NATO needs a big enemy to remain relevant. So naturally NATO declined.

More like they don't want a dictator in the Alliance.

 

[wingnut771]

not if the organisation itself made a commitment to the contrary, period

Made a commitment to who, USSR or Russia?

 

[tetrasect]

 

[wingnut771]

by population count more people chose to be on the fence or stand with Russia when it came to UN votes on condemning Russia's actions

so no, most of the world does not trust USA more

People with a boot on their neck from Dictators.

 

[wingnut771]

Only on the security council. Can't they do that in general assembly?

I always thought it's the security council who sends boots on the ground.

 

[wingnut771]

same logic to those 4 regions joined russia last week ............

did russia hold a gun to their heads and force them to join russia or did those regions ask to join?

Who joined what now?

 

[buka001]

you mean NATO unilaterally started a war that they had F-ALL business in ... yes I agree that happened

Sure.

UN Resolution 787 says hi!

UN resolution that was enacted by NATO to bomb Yugoslavia.

 

[buka001]

WTF?

get a grip nuclear warmongering supporter

you don't need a constitution or articles to describe that when you make a commitment you ought to stick to it

f-me, can I please buy your house? I'll sign the offer to purchase and not pay a cent then move in

if you can't show the constitution or articles that say that's not okay the house is mine

Like how Russia said they wouldn't invade Ukraine? Is that what you mean, when a nation makes a commitment, it must stick to it?

 

[HideInLight]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579413266094125056

 

[Cray]

Like how Russia said they wouldn't invade Ukraine? Is that what you mean, when a nation makes a commitment, it must stick to it?

Or when Russia signed an agreement to respect the sovereign territory of Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving up Nuclear weapons?

 

[HideInLight]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/y0ffb8

 

[sefeddt]

Nobody wants to negotiate with Putin - fair enough. Why nobody at all is calling for ceasefire is beyond me.
Regardless of what lies ahead, sometimes one just needs to break up the fight and cool heads.

The ceasefire where Putin stated he would continue and demanded Ukraine forces step down during negotiations.

 

[Blu82]

Made a commitment to who, USSR or Russia?

We can discuss Russias commitment to Ukraine made when they returned the USSR nuclear weapons which was made on paper.

 

[MiW]

 

[WollieVerstege]

?

Electronic Counter Measures / Electronic Warfare.
Some key infrastructures, like power plants, could be protected by very powerful jammers. Just like we see footage of drones being jammed, but on a much larger scale.

 

[MiW]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579489697931628544