Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 5

[tetrasect]

That was by no means the start of conflict...

Ukrainian army’s missile hits nationalist battalion’s headquarters in dispute

The nationalist battalion Azov refused to obey orders from and coordinate actions with the Ukrainian army’s command, deputy commander of the DPR militia Eduard Basurin informed

tass.com

But I don't expect that to be quoted on Wikipedia.

That's story is dated March 2022 you fool.

 

[The Trutherizer]

No country close to Russia feels safe.

And you can bet your last buck that each one that is already a NATO member feels it was the best decision they ever made.
Zero doubts. Smiling ear to ear, for days, every day, all day.

 

[Dave]

Good to see it appears there are other countries distancing themselves from the Orc Kingdom.

Russian ally cancels Russian-led military drill on its land

The Central Asian nation of Kyrgyzstan did not explain why.

www.politico.com

The Central Asian nation of Kyrgyzstan on Sunday unilaterally cancelled joint military drills between the six nations making up the Russia-led Collective Security Treaty Organization, less than a day before they were due to start on its territory.

The Kyrgyz defense ministry did not specify the reason for cancelling the “Indestructible Brotherhood-2022” command and staff exercises, which were set to be held in the country’s windswept eastern highlands Monday to Friday.

 

[The Trutherizer]

Being Russian is a common symptom of FAS.

 

[hexagon]

Why did the people's republic have an illegal militia supported by Russia?

Any people's Republic that wishes to secede is arguably by definition illegal.
The flashpoint was when both Ukrainian police and protesters were killed by the same snipers:

https://wikispooks.com/w/images/5/52/Maidan_snipers.pdf
which led directly to the Yanukovych overthrow/coup:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26354705

At which point, eastern Ukraine decided that they had had enough...

 

[HideInLight]

Looks like Hitman 47 was involved in the crimean bridge saga. Guess who was in the car next to the exploding truck.

Also note how Russia had preselected it's targets and had it's ships ready and in position.

And how far would you go if the Russian Mafia threatened your family?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Looks like Hitman 47 was involved in the crimean bridge saga. Guess who was in the car next to the exploding truck.

Also note how Russia had preselected it's targets and had it's ships ready and in position.

And how far would you go if the Russian Mafia threatened your family?

Care to explain what you're saying?

 

[HideInLight]

Not sure about the last part, but there's a massive plot twist.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Not sure about the last part, but there's a massive plot twist.

So, you're saying nothing then.

 

[Mirai]

Any people's Republic that wishes to secede is arguably by definition illegal.

There was no "peoples' republic". Yes sedition, terrorism, insurrection, murder, arson, destruction of property etc are crimes.

The flashpoint was when both Ukrainian police and protesters were killed by the same snipers:

There was no such "flashpoint".

https://wikispooks.com/w/images/5/52/Maidan_snipers.pdf
which led directly to the Yanukovych overthrow/coup:

There was no coup.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26354705

At which point, eastern Ukraine decided that they had had enough...

That's not true. It was imposed on people by various Russian sponsored gangs.

Later polls showed that most people in the east did not want to secede from Ukraine.

Russia is a belligerent, imperialist state which should not interfere in Ukraine. If some Ukrainians had issues they could have raised them peacefully. Of course this was imposed on them by Russian armed and backed militias and little green men. And now the Russian army.

 

[Mirai]

And you can bet your last buck that each one that is already a NATO member feels it was the best decision they ever made.
Zero doubts. Smiling ear to ear, for days, every day, all day.

Being a NATO member does not mean that everyone sends the cavalry. The treaty obliges members to offer assistance but does not mean the others will fight the war for them. The assistance may be limited and may take a while to arrive. So NATO membership is great and all but each country needs to have adequate defense to be able to show they deserve significant military assistance or actual military action by NATO allies against the aggressor. That's why for example Poland is buying Abrams Sepv3, older Abrams and Korean tanks as well as Korean howitzers. They have to hold out long enough for any assistance to arrive. That goes for all NATO allies but as some are deep in the Western European hinterland and quite far from Russian threats they can choose to have a reduced military.

 

[HideInLight]

So, you're saying nothing then.

Phone being annoying with links.
Main source us mirror and dailymail for now.

One of the victims was a top Russian Judge.
And it's also rumoured the cadillac he was driving had the bomb.

Ukraine for some reason released a statement that they had intel the bombings of the city was already being set up prior to the bridge explotion.

 

[HideInLight]

Top Russian judge killed in crimea bridge attack. Can google it.

 

[sefeddt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579857990492225537

 

[sefeddt]

Russia propogandists have been pushing the claim that Ukraine is planning on attacking Belarus.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579858647202828288

 

[MiW]

Top Russian judge killed in crimea bridge attack. Can google it.

Russian Judge Linked to Top Putin Ally Allegedly Killed in Bridge Bomb

One of the last cases he worked on reportedly involved none other than Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov's daughter.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[sefeddt]

Beef up Ukraine's air defense and Russia will be back to resorting to nuclear. They've already proven lacking in ground fighting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579847745799847936

Ukraine receives first of four German IRIS-T air defence systems -source

Ukraine on Tuesday received the first of four IRIS-T air defence systems Germany promised to supply, a German defence ministry source said, confirming a report by Der Spiegel magazine.

www.reuters.com

 

[hexagon]

There was no coup.

Wow. Sounds like a great unbiased source...

EUvsDisinfo is the flagship project of the European External Action Service’s East StratCom Task Force(opens in a new tab). It was established in 2015 to better forecast, address, and respond to the Russian Federation’s ongoing disinformation campaigns affecting the European Union, its Member States, and countries in the shared neighbourhood.

Later polls showed that most people in the east did not want to secede from Ukraine.

That's interesting, given that Gwendolyn's own study reported that:
"While the inclusive civic identity ‘Ukrainian citizen’ dominated in the
government-controlled Donbas in 2016, it had lost importance by 2019. The
number of respondents choosing this category dropped from 53 per cent to
26 per cent. This significant weakening of identification with the Ukrainian
state captures the disappointment of those living close to the front line and
a sense of having been left behind by the central government."

 

[Mirai]

Wow. Sounds like a great unbiased source...



That's interesting, given that Gwendolyn's own study reported that:
"While the inclusive civic identity ‘Ukrainian citizen’ dominated in the
government-controlled Donbas in 2016, it had lost importance by 2019. The
number of respondents choosing this category dropped from 53 per cent to
26 per cent. This significant weakening of identification with the Ukrainian
state captures the disappointment of those living close to the front line and
a sense of having been left behind by the central government."

The source states facts. No coup. Tin foil UFO types bring up coups.

And to top it all off later the Ukrainians elected a second government. And then Zelensky.

But as I keep telling Russia supporters... is the Russian government itself legitimate?

USSR came out of a coup of its own. So not legitimate. Russian government of Yeltsin has no continuity with the pre Bolshevik provisional government or the Tsarist one. If you want to talk coups, worry about Russia.

Yeltsin and his guys, they were all Communist party members, descenants of the criminal gang which seized power under Lenin. Where is the legitimacy in that? If you want to be this concerned about civics in Ukraine, don't show up Russia as a paragon of virtue in legitimacy.

 

[buka001]

just fyi for anyone even remotely gullible enough to think Russia has ever needed to resort to nukes in Ukraine:
View attachment 1398653

100 cruise missiles per day can be fired for 6 months before the existing stockpile is depleted ... and production for those missiles certainly is ongoing and even being accelerated

100 x 30 x 6 = 18000.

You and this guy must have gone to the Russian school of math where 1800 = 18000