Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 5

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NarrowBandFtw

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You should update that to NATO surplus weaponry.
sure "surplus", when the US suddenly tries to ramp up production and it's weapon deliveries get progressively less every time you just know they only sent their "surplus"

btw they've never had a "surplus" of HIMARS, everything they send comes from stock they wanted to keep

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s-u-r-e

only one army in Ukraine has:
- faced literally all weaponry NATO could throw at it short of nukes
- captured 20% of the other's territory
- destroyed 50% of the other's electricity generation capacity in 3 days

Ukraine sure is stronk! :ROFL:
Try again, the separatists held a sizable chunk of that 20% you claim and its now down to 15% and getting less each day. Since Ukraine started their offensive Russia has not taken any settlement, town or city. It took them months to take Mariupol despite outnumbering the Ukrainian's in weapons and manpower and Russia lost many of their "elite" forces as well.
 

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getting less each day
LOL, the offensive has halted along the entire front, try again

Russia has not taken any settlement, town or city
Opytnoe? Ivangrad? Stop relying only on your BS biased sources, towns are being reclaimed daily

sure, there is no massive pushback, why would they push back now while 100+ cruise missiles pummel Ukraine daily and they know they have 300k reinforcements on the way in the coming weeks?
 

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sure "surplus", when the US suddenly tries to ramp up production and it's weapon deliveries get progressively less every time you just know they only sent their "surplus"

btw they've never had a "surplus" of HIMARS, everything they send comes from stock they wanted to keep

The sent all the stuff close to their expire date and as those got less the quantities got less. For the instance the HARM model in Ukraine is obsolete in terms of the series. Another example will be the amount of Javelins missiles with battery issues to do the age of the system.
 

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LOL, the offensive has halted along the entire front, try again


Opytnoe? Ivangrad? Stop relying only on your BS biased sources, towns are being reclaimed daily

sure, there is no massive pushback, why would they push back now while 100+ cruise missiles pummel Ukraine daily and they know they have 300k reinforcements on the way in the coming weeks?

They've already sent back some of that 300k in bodybags...
 

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LOL, the offensive has halted along the entire front, try again


Opytnoe? Ivangrad? Stop relying only on your BS biased sources, towns are being reclaimed daily

sure, there is no massive pushback, why would they push back now while 100+ cruise missiles pummel Ukraine daily and they know they have 300k reinforcements on the way on the coming weeks?
Yeah, we've seen how well trained and disciplined they are, even the Russian media have highlighted it. Ukraine are storing up on body bags to send them home.
 

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According to What the Ukrainian Air Force Has in the Sky - FLYING Magazine Ukraine had 318 aircraft.

Wikipedia says they have lost 152 aircraft . List of aircraft losses during the Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia

That is almost 50 % of the airforce.

This guy says that Ukraine has 80 % of pre war aircraft left to fight.

Russia’s Blunted Air Support Crippled Ground Campaign: US General (thedefensepost.com)

US Air Force General James B. Hecker

“The general explained that restricting Russian air power allowed the Ukrainian air force to retain 80 percent of its pre-invasion aircraft seven months into the war.”

They lose 50 % but have 80 % left to fight.

Numbers and statistics mean nothing if you go and make it up


To put it plain and simple what i meant that guy said :

You had 10 green chickens the start of the year.

5 green chickens get killed by your neighbor.

The friend you have in another town says you still have 8 of the original green chickens from the beginning of the year.

That is excluding the other orange chickens you got throughout the year

So is that 3 green chickens is still there.

WTF
 

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sure "surplus", when the US suddenly tries to ramp up production and it's weapon deliveries get progressively less every time you just know they only sent their "surplus"

btw they've never had a "surplus" of HIMARS, everything they send comes from stock they wanted to keep

:laugh:
Well Germany has enough ammo for a 2 day war. Ukraine can always count on them.
 

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To put it plain and simple what i meant that guy said :

You had 10 green chickens the start of the year.

5 green chickens get killed by your neighbor.

The friend you have in another town says you still have 8 of the original green chickens from the beginning of the year.

That is excluding the other orange chickens you got throughout the year

So is that 3 green chickens is still there.

WTF
Does the original number counted include weapons that were in long-term storage or those waiting to be refurbished?
 

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they can try, I don't believe they have anything with that kind of range and Moscow is armed to the teeth with air defences

but that all aside, all it would achieve is the same as the Crimea bridge stunt: escalation

in fact, a direct strike on Moscow would guarantee significant escalation,
Yup, how dare Ukraine hit the Capital city of the country they are fighting against, I mean that would be like hitting Kyiv with cruise missiles....oh, wait :oops:
 

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It is called defending the "rules-based international order" and standing up for freedom and democracy.
Which is code for "defending the freedom of oligarchs to exploit the working class and select plonkers that the working class can vote for to make them think they have real demoacracy".

The oligarchs are Russian. But they have been falling out of windows lately.
 

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So, the ANC learnt well from their communist masters then.
Well those in exile definitely got training in covert tactics from the USSR. That would have been from the KGB playbook of the time. I've even seen them allude to it on TV from time to time. Usually in a nudge-nudge-wink-wink way. They know they've employed KGB style manipulations and tactics in their quest for power once SA transitioned (that was a done deal even without the ANC), and they are not ashamed of it. All in all they seem rather satisfied with and proud of it. They were successful after all. One would think the quality of rule they've provided might be a metric by which they would want to rate the whole thing, but that's likely just projection (as somebody who would want to rate it on such a metric).
 
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