Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 5

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tetrasect

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I was asking... So what colours do you see?

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The shape and colours look very similar. You can post insignia that you think it looks like if you want.

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No it doesn't. It's missing the black stripe at the top.

And even suggesting that is fcking retarded.

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We don't even need to see any soldiers in the video to know that it's Russians executing civilians like they have been doing since the beginning of this war. Only someone with permanent brain damage would concoct a scenario that says otherwise.
 

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No it doesn't. It's missing the black stripe at the top.

And even suggesting that is fcking retarded.

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We don't even need to see any soldiers in the video to know that it's Russians executing civilians like they have been doing since the beginning of this war. Only someone with permanent brain damage would concoct a scenario that says otherwise.

I presume @Norrad thought he was on a clever troll with that, it's why I completely ignored the post.
 

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As usual, no source. Definitely not the German military...

According to many experts, the Bundeswehr is not prepared for a long-term conflict.

According to experts, the ammunition supplies would only last for one or two days in the event of war. According to the NATO standard, however, 30 days are required.

Although this is known and additional ammunition is being given to Ukraine, the Ministry of Defense is only ordering a small amount of ammunition. The Parliamentary Commissioner for the Armed Forces also warns.


Who are these experts?
 

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I actually feel sorry for the Russian conscripts. They are send to be slaughtered in Ukraine because of Putin’s stupid ambitions and there are absolutely no benefits for them or their families.
 

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As usual, no source. Definitely not the German military...

According to many experts, the Bundeswehr is not prepared for a long-term conflict.

According to experts, the ammunition supplies would only last for one or two days in the event of war. According to the NATO standard, however, 30 days are required.

Although this is known and additional ammunition is being given to Ukraine, the Ministry of Defense is only ordering a small amount of ammunition. The Parliamentary Commissioner for the Armed Forces also warns.


Who are these experts?

If you look at footage from the Ukraine war, you can see again and again the intensity with which the fighting is being fought. In particular, the artillery on both sides was constantly firing at the enemy's positions. A report from the summer shows how intense the fighting is. Just four weeks after the Bundeswehr had delivered the Panzerhaubitze 2000 to the Ukrainians, the armed forces there reported that the tubes were worn out. The continuous fire has its price.

If Germany suddenly had to defend itself in a war, this problem would almost certainly not arise. The reason: Germany only has ammunition for one or two days of combat use. This is confirmed by representatives of the armaments industry, experts and defense politicians in the Bundestag. Germany is thus lagging far behind its obligations. According to a NATO specification, the reserves should last at least 30 days.


The problem has been known for years, even training and exercises have suffered from it. Soldiers have been complaining about this for quite some time. In addition, Germany also supplies Ukraine with ammunition. How much can be tracked on the website of the federal government. These include, among others:

  • 167,000 rounds of handgun ammunition
  • 1,592 rounds of 155 mm artillery ammunition
  • 255 rounds of Vulcano artillery ammunition 155 mm
  • 30,000 rounds of 40mm ammunition
Anyone who is undersupplied and also sells material will quickly order new material - one would think so. Apparently that hasn't happened yet. Hans Christoph Atzpodien, General Manager of the Federal Association of the German Security and Defense Industry (BDSV), sounds the alarm: "Of course, this description of the situation will not improve if ammunition from Bundeswehr stocks is handed over and corresponding orders are not placed with the industry at the same time," he said Business Insider.


How much ammunition is actually missing, says Eva Högl, Defense Commissioner of the German Bundestag, Business Insider: “We would need an additional 20 billion euros for ammunition procurement alone. At the same time, there are not enough ammunition stores. That shows that a great deal of effort is still needed here.” Some experts say that a total package of up to 30 billion euros will be necessary by 2030. However, the ammunition is to be paid for from the current defense budget, not from the special fund.

Högl warns: "If the turning point is to succeed, then something has to happen on many levels." She mentions materials, personnel and infrastructure, but also procedures, processes, structures, responsibilities and responsibilities. Something has to change "so that full operational readiness is achieved."


Even deputies in the coalition are calling for more speed​

The armaments industry is particularly irritated by the procedures and processes in the armed forces in relation to the procurement of ammunition. Industry representatives report that after Russia's attack on Ukraine, offers were made to produce faster and more, for example to switch to three-shift operation in factories. So far, however, there have been no significant orders. The Ministry of Defense and the procurement office of the Bundeswehr hesitated.

Parliamentarians and industry representatives also warn that production capacities in industry must be filled quickly. Because the whole of Europe, alarmed by the war in Ukraine, is ordering, the demand is increasing faster than the production sites can be expanded. If Germany waits too long, it would have to wait in line with its orders.

The hesitant action of the Ministry of Defense and the procurement office of the Bundeswehr also causes a lack of understanding in the coalition. MPs shake their heads at the fact that the issue is not progressing any faster. "We must finally pick up speed," says a parliamentarian from the coalition.


19 projects planned by the end of the year​

After all, as Business Insider learned, 19 so-called “25 million templates” are planned by the end of the year. With these templates procurement projects are started at the Bundeswehr. Ammunition will also be purchased from a number of them, including various intelligent and particularly long-range grenades for the Panzerhaubitze 2000 and 30-millimeter ammunition for the Puma infantry fighting vehicle.

The budget for ammunition purchases is also to be increased. So far, one billion euros has been planned for this, there is currently a proposal to increase this sum by 237 million euros, and some MPs are even talking about an additional 500 million. But even that is not enough to achieve the self-imposed target of 20 to 30 billion euros by 2030.
 

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I actually feel sorry for the Russian conscripts. They are send to be slaughtered in Ukraine because of Putin’s stupid ambitions and there are absolutely no benefits for them or their families.

They are merely cannon fodder, and unfortunately the Russian people have always been cannon fodder for the ruling elite.
 

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I was asking... So what colours do you see?

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The shape and colours look very similar. You can post insignia that you think it looks like if you want.

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I can't make out ****. People see what they want to see.
All I can see is black outlines and the thickness, doesn't match. Sides with thin lines. There should be a larger black portion on top.
Does not match in my opinion.
 

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No it doesn't. It's missing the black stripe at the top.

And even suggesting that is fcking retarded.

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We don't even need to see any soldiers in the video to know that it's Russians executing civilians like they have been doing since the beginning of this war. Only someone with permanent brain damage would concoct a scenario that says otherwise.
Wow, guess you haven't been laid for a while and needed to vent. Now that you've had your massive meltdown can you find a patch that resembles the one in the vid?

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Let's see how the Ukraine (and the Banderites in their government) and USA vote at the UN this year:
Last year:
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You will laugh.... (or perhaps not...)


The United States Supreme Court has affirmed the constitutional right to freedoms of expression, association and the right to peaceful assembly, including of self-avowed Nazis, whose hatred and xenophobia are widely derided by the American people. At the same time, we steadfastly defend the constitutional rights of those who exercise their rights to combat intolerance and express strong opposition to the odious Nazi creed and others who espouse hatred.
We discourage States from invoking Article 4 of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination and Article 20 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights in an attempt to either silence unwelcome opinions or to excuse their failure to combat intolerance.
 
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