Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 5

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Norrad said:
Is that the good old blue and yellow on the uniformed soldier's there
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Mirai said:
These sort of things are quite common. Google them: here's one from 2008

Russian bomber buzzes U.S. aircraft carrier - CNN.com

American fighter jets intercepted two Russian bombers, one of which buzzed a U.S. aircraft carrier in the western Pacific on Saturday, U.S. military officials told CNN Monday.
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Turbo prop bombers screwing around with F18's. This will end well for that putin whore.
 
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MiW said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1581188363528200192
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A Commissar is a military political officer. Something the West does not have as their militaries are apolitical. Commissars ensure the political indoctrination of troops, monitor dissent and generally spy on the command of the unit they are assigned to. Officers commanding units despise them and treat them with passive aggressive contempt but agree with them all the time as their careers are on the line.

Their effect on everybody lying about their dire circumstances as being excellent causes only positive reports to HQ and a skew picture of the actual state of a unit as they have to see all reports. This results in the schizophrenic Russian armed forces we witness.
 
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Thugscub said:
Where is that little ***** that called me an idiot? Viper??? Come to daddy and get a proper PK. ya stupid little kiddie wanker.
Now let's see if you have the balls to reply or are you going to run peeing in your panties to the mods? Woke p**s.
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There are plenty on here with big mouths behind keyboards who would cower if they met any of the people they feel so free to insult and call names while remaining anonymous cowards. Real Call of Duty heroes who would never make it through basic military training and need a safe space whenever they are shouted at.
 
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Pak Fa Fui said:
He with the most nukes wins
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You say that as though you discovered the world today. How old are you?

Dude nuclear weapons are existential defense. Putin and his guys are not suicidal. What's discussed is that maybe they can use tactical low yield nuclear weapons which would be quite negligible for anyone beyond a 10km radius or so. If Russians hit a NATO city then they may lose St Petersburg and they don't want to lose that.
In that situation Russians would understand they would have to lose St Petersburg and possibly nuclear escalation would end there.

Only likely mass nuclear war would follow if Russia launched on US and in the setting of Russia itself being overrun by NATO countries' divisions. But NATO does not field many such divisions. US has about a 100 M1 tanks in Poland, while Poland has 250 now outdated Leopard 2s and the rest of the NATO countries have a few tanks each. The Germans had like a couple dozen Panzer Haubitze and the same for the French. The French, Brits and Germans give a few MLRS systems because they only own a few MLRS systems. Nobody is invading Russia. And NATO soldiers are not cannon fodder. These are relatively small professional armies from countries where life is valued above all else. If they're sending ground forces it's only when they have overwhelming numerical and tactical superiority on many levels. And that takes time, mobilisation and preparation.That's why when people like Paulsie who claim to be from central Europe, when they say Poles are itching for a fight with 250 old Leopard 2s, I scratch my head in disbelief at the level of ignorance. NATO is geared for defense eg the Suwalki gap or neutralising Koningsberg and not a mass assault on Russia itself. That sort of thing would require a large operation beforehand, think of Desert Storm in Iraq.
 
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Mirai said:
You say that as though you discovered the world today. How old are you?

Dude nuclear weapons are existential defense. Putin and his guys are not suicidal. What's discussed is that maybe they can use tactical low yield nuclear weapons which would be quite negligible for anyone beyond a 10km radius or so. If Russians hit a NATO city then they may lose St Petersburg and they don't want to lose that.
In that situation Russians would understand they would have to lose St Petersburg and possibly nuclear escalation would end there.

Only likely mass nuclear war would follow if Russia launched on US and in the setting of Russia itself being overrun by NATO countries' divisions. But NATO does not field many such divisions. US has about a 100 M1 tanks in Poland, while Poland has 250 now outdated Leopard 2s and the rest of the NATO countries have a few tanks each. The Germans had like a couple dozen Panzer Haubitze and the same for the French. The French, Brits and Germans give a few MLRS systems because they only own a few MLRS systems. Nobody is invading Russia. And NATO soldiers are not cannon fodder. These are relatively small professional armies from countries where life is valued above all else. If they're sending ground forces it's only when they have overwhelming numerical and tactical superiority on many levels. And that takes time, mobilisation and preparation.That's why when people like Paulsie who claim to be from central Europe, when they say Poles are itching for a fight with 250 old Leopard 2s, I scratch my head in disbelief at the level of ignorance. NATO is geared for defense eg the Suwalki gap or neutralising Koningsberg and not a mass assault on Russia itself. That sort of thing would require a large operation beforehand, think of Desert Storm in Iraq.
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Nato has never been tested on their defence, nato was created for Russia, when opportunity comes a knocking
 
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Pak Fa Fui said:
Nato has never been tested on their defence, nato was created for Russia, when opportunity comes a knocking
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Your point further strengthens mine, even if I disagree with it. NATO is not offensive. It would need to pull Desert Storm like preparation before launching into Russia and causing actual need for Russia to consider nuclear war.

There are a few thousand US troops in countries bordering Russia. They are good but not superhuman. Maybe if they had John Rambo with them given how he took care of the Russians in Afghanistan they could launch now.
 
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