Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 5

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Just watching this on the news tonight here States side.
Apparently, guys from Tajikistan.

Stranger yet, the Russians are complaining about UA missiles, while at the same time bragging about their missile strikes.

The big news story tonight is the UA counter offensive. UA is expected to take Kherson - hopefully before winter hits hard.
Ok that is even more interesting that they are from Tajikistan. Past 2 weeks I have been seeing a lot of russian mobiks training without live ammo on video. I wonder if the sentiment is even more so there against mobilisation that they took such extreme action.
 

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Ok that is even more interesting that they are from Tajikistan. Past 2 weeks I have been seeing a lot of russian mobiks training without live ammo on video. I wonder if the sentiment is even more so there against mobilisation that they took such extreme action.
Could be

The fact that Putin is making a big song and dance about ending conscription, tells me its a bigger issue than Russia lets on.

I suspect there are plenty pi$$ed of people around.
 

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:rolleyes::oops:

Dunno, have always been civil and open with the OP.
Oh well, guess its his prerogative to be a bit short ?

Sorry I asked.
Sorry I did not mean it in a personal way (as in I'm done taking with you). Just that the whole US involvement since Maidan has made things more fragile that they could have been had the US not got involved (ie left it to Europe).
That's what's been discussed ad nauseam and is not worth rehashing.
 

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Ok that is even more interesting that they are from Tajikistan. Past 2 weeks I have been seeing a lot of russian mobiks training without live ammo on video. I wonder if the sentiment is even more so there against mobilisation that they took such extreme action.
I need a very hard proof that the shooters were Tajiki terrorists ... and that few hours after the Tajiki president demanded some respect for his nationals in Russia .

How do terrorist get into a practice grounds fully armed?
 

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The women say the conscripts were threatened and officers robbed them, taking away their uniforms.

"The whole organisation of the conscription was wrong from the beginning... conscripts have been dumped in occupied territories without any training," one of the women says in the appeal to Putin.

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"The officers of the Soloti unit are threatening the conscripts with criminal liability, [but they’re] not refusing to go and defend our Bryansk Oblast. They don't want to be cannon fodder for them," said one of the women.

Moreover, according to SOTA, another 200 conscripts, including some from Bryansk Oblast, have been in occupied territory in Ukraine for over a week, without either food or constant communication and not knowing their exact location. In their rare calls to relatives, they ask them to persuade the military leadership to evacuate them to Russia.
 

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His service is useful but not indispensible. It's Western (mostly American gov) intel and Western weapons and support (eg for refugees, food, supplies, training) which is winning this war for Ukraine. We also must not forge the Ukrainians resolve not to fold as in Crimea in 2014 but to actually give their lives to stop the Russians. Many if not most of these Starlink terminals and subs are paid for either by Ukrainians or by foreign donors. The beef apparently is that they are charging the lower fee and not the professional tier fee, apparently. But Starlink also has US government contracts and no doubt other contracts which give a huge advantage with inflow of cash, and if they get in Uncle Sam's way or are seen as unreliable, it won't be to their benefit. Once this war ends, Starlink will enjoy their advantage and good PR in the consumer field too, in Europe for instance. Someone on the twitter mentioned that maybe it's about cheap lithium and aluminium from Russia. Who knows.
 
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