Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 5

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Mirai

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Where did I claim that? And do me a favour and don't state your projections.

Then don't come with the coup nonsense. And don't decide for Ukrainians what they do or don't or what their president achieved. You're not Ukrainian.

Russia needs to fsck off. Before 2014 they needed to do that. After 2014 even more so. And definitively NOW since February 2022.
 

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Paulsie the judge of Ukrainian government achievement. You and Nico really swapping notes there?

Pauslie, Russia needs to get out of Ukraine. It occupied Crimean and instigated a rebellion in the Donbas. There can be no peace until they fsck off back to their own, largest in the world, country. How can one have peace when a foreign power actively kills your soldiers.
You can mock as much as you wish. There will never be peace until people can vote free of influence and their votes are observed.
Do you really think by Russia pulling out, the situation in Eastern U will magically resolve?
 

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Then don't come with the coup nonsense. And don't decide for Ukrainians what they do or don't or what their president achieved. You're not Ukrainian.

Russia needs to fsck off. Before 2014 they needed to do that. After 2014 even more so. And definitively NOW since February 2022.
I sincerely hope you ARE Ukrainian since you decide yourself. That would actually explain a lot.
Are you? As not being one would make you a hypocrite telling me what not to do.
 

Mirai

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You can mock as much as you wish. There will never be peace until people can vote free of influence and their votes are observed.

Polls showed that most Ukrainians in the area wanted to be part of Ukraine. So I would not be so sure. Back in the day they all voted to seperate from the USSR. It will happen again. Less Russian meddling, better for everyone.

Do you really think by Russia pulling out, the situation in Eastern U will magically resolve?

It will improve for sure. Less killing and raping.

So tell me are Russians in Latvia being raped and killed by Latvians?

Same will happen in Ukraine.

But Mirai, Bandera.... Bandera....Ukraine had Bandera.

Oooh... and Latvians did not take part in SS units?
 

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The 2019 election results were very much irrelevant. Zelensky was elected based on his promise to get economy going, get rid of corruption and bring peace with Russia.
So it's Zelensky's fault that Russia invaded his country? Therefore that election doesn't count because something he campaigned on wasn't achieved through no fault of his own... ,Jesus, do you listen to yourself?
He was not allowed to do any of that due to internal pressures and threats. I guess that's what happens when you think legitimate government can be controlled and dictated by violence.
Ukraine had it coming and Russia is not the only guilty party.
So what is your argument for declaring the election irrelevant, that a politician campaigned on certain goals and didn't manage to achieve them all?

And people who say Ukraine "had it coming", seriously, can f*** right off.
 

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So it's not that Russia doesn't have sane and informed military brass , it's just that the powers didn't want to listen to them.

Interesting interview


Retired Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov, known for his pro-Soviet and national-patriotic views, chairman of the All-Russian Officers' Assembly had issued an appeal against Russia's war with Ukraine before it began and called for the Russian leadership and President Vladimir Putin to resign.
 

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Some pos seems to be reporting my comments. I'll try find out.
I wonder which Ukraine simp it was.

I was jiving to that song.

I was about to request an official BoneyM version and suddenly "poof" the post was gone. Quite disappointing, I must say.
 

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I was about to request an official BoneyM version and suddenly "poof" the post was gone. Quite disappointing, I must say.
Behold, the comment you responded to has been vanished like a Russian dissident out the closest window.
 

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The West could win this by dumping better sausage and vodka (not hard to do given its Russia) into Russia and offering more if Russians just refuse to fight.

I saw a suggestion elsewhere that the Ukrainians should retreat somewhere and leave a load of poisoned vodka in their old positions, it would wipe out an entire front of Russians...
 
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