Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 5

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OhYeah84

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Have you ever considered that maybe you're projecting your frustrations on forumites here that also do not agree with it, but who also see another aspect you ignore or refuse to see? This results in you blaming them, accusing and trolling them, so they end up trolling you ...

A case in point is your interaction with Rietrot. I semi agree with him, semi not. But that is only because I chose to educate myself on certain problems in the Ukraine made off by our cheer leaders as non-existent, dis-proven etc. In reality, the "disprove" was nothing more than trying to troll, discredit and ban unpopular messengers, calling them trolls and liars. Going to look at what they actually said is nothing like what they really said before the trolling started. Many of the things pointed were original quotes from actual extremist Ukrainians, even from the Ukranian media, and international politicians. Trolling and discrediting an unpopular messenger, with inconvenient facts, to death is not dis-proving anything, It's a stupid pathetic game that does not change facts.
I have no frustrations. I was trying to understand his viewpoint.
I asked for proof on these attrocities Ukraine was committing which made Russia attack them. Or was it because NATO was on their doorstep if Ukraine joined that organisation.
Or was it the Nazis, and now LGBTQI+ community. The story keeps changing as to the reason why they did what they did. And continue to do with rapes, attacking residential areas etc.
 

Emjay

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Always amusing to laugh about people dying.

Hilarious.

Fascists love to show how indifferent they are to death and suffering.

Just like agreeing that countries that were invaded are shitholes, right?

I would agree with you if your choices for virtue signaling were not so selective.
 

Vorastra

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I have no frustrations. I was trying to understand his viewpoint.
I asked for proof on these attrocities Ukraine was committing which made Russia attack them. Or was it because NATO was on their doorstep if Ukraine joined that organisation.
Or was it the Nazis, and now LGBTQI+ community. The story keeps changing as to the reason why they did what they did. And continue to do with rapes, attacking residential areas etc.
Why not all of it.
 

Cosmik Debris

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The 2019 election results were very much irrelevant. Zelensky was elected based on his promise to get economy going, get rid of corruption and bring peace with Russia.
He was not allowed to do any of that due to internal pressures and threats. I guess that's what happens when you think legitimate government can be controlled and dictated by violence.
Ukraine had it coming and Russia is not the only guilty party.

Who invaded Ukraine then? What does Ukraine's internal politics have to do with Russia?
 

Cosmik Debris

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You can mock as much as you wish. There will never be peace until people can vote free of influence and their votes are observed.
Do you really think by Russia pulling out, the situation in Eastern U will magically resolve?

So the referendums in the annexed territories were free and fair then?
 

MunosMachos

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I do.

The USA and UK should not be supplying weapons to Saudi.

Banderites lumped in with all neo-nazis.
Very good. The only pro-Ukrainian here with any integrity. Admirers and followers of Bandera and his ideology' are really giving Ukrainians a bad name.
Can I count on you to call out the next mass shooter who talks about Great Replacement theories, immigration, dark-coloured people, Jews and how his race is threatened?
Sure. Don't forget the Russophobes and their posts that dehumanize people.
 
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