Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 5

[MunosMachos]

I don't know why he's entertaining you. You don't get to decide who critiques what and which ad homimens are valid forms of argument. None of them are.

It's irrelevant what US or Saudi Arabia did. It's irrelevant that some Ukrainians like Bandera who is long dead. What's relevant is that Russia attacked Ukraine in 2022 and is murdering their people, NOW.

One does not need to know anything about Yemen or even care for it one way or another, one can be for or against the Saudis in Yemen, but what's relevant is that Ukraine is being attacked in a war of aggression. This topic is about that. Make your own topic elsewhere.

Please stop wasting everyone's time here. Please stop posting off topic stuff, I will start to report it.

Irrelevant.... says the guy that constantly brings up Russia's past to argue for why they are acting the way they do today.

 

[Wut]

If that was the reason Uganda abstained from the UN votes to supply electric cars then my mind is blown. Luckily they did not intend to supply Ugandan parabats.

Video of Ugandan Parabats in action:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1580236916561440771

Do you mean Honduran parachutists? Video was proven to be fake news in another thread...

 

[Vorastra]

Sure. Don't forget the Russophobes and their posts that dehumanize people.

Those are fine because they're the bad guys for invading. @buka001 never seems to argue with those people though. Weird.

 

[MiW]

Just like agreeing that countries that were invaded are shitholes, right?

I would agree with you if your choices for virtue signaling were not so selective.

Did you wake up this morning in a revolutionary mood, wandering which NCA thread you can troll without any real opinion or knowledge on the subject or the posters opinions?

If you are bored, I would suggest you read the last 50k posts, so you don't post dumb schit about other people's opinions and actions.

 

[Vorastra]

Do you mean Honduras parachutists? Video was proven to be fake news in another thread...

When has that stopped @Matata.

you can troll

Everything I don't like is trolling.jpg

 

[Vorastra]

Oh no.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1582285293214117888

 

[Emjay]

Did you wake up this morning in a revolutionary mood, wandering which NCA thread you can troll without any real opinion or knowledge on the subject or the posters opinions?

If you bored, I would suggest you read the last 50k posts, so you don't post dumb schit about other people's opinions and actions.

You don't even know what I am referring to. So why don't you keep your "dumb schit" to yourself?

 

[MunosMachos]

Good article:

Why the US must press for a ceasefire in Ukraine - Responsible Statecraft

Responsible Statecraft Why the US must press for a ceasefire in Ukraine Analysis -

responsiblestatecraft.org

Why the US must press for a ceasefire in Ukraine
As a key player in Kyiv’s defense and the leader of sanctions against Russia, Washington is obligated to help find a way out.

Four recent events have put the war in Ukraine on a distinctly more dangerous course.

— The Russian annexation of four additional Ukrainian provinces blocks compromise solutions that were feasible earlier.

— The disabling attacks on both North Stream pipelines make it impossible in the near term to restore Russia as the principal energy supplier to Germany, even if the war in Ukraine should be miraculously ended.

— The Ukrainian attack on the bridge to Crimea gave Russia a pretext to escalate attacks on Ukrainian civilian targets.

— The Russian retaliatory attacks on civilian targets are certain to do more damage to Ukraine than Ukraine can do to Russia.

The leaders of both Russia and Ukraine have set impossible goals. In fact, not a single participant in the war in Ukraine has espoused a goal that can restore peace in the area. Russia’s recent incorporation of four Ukrainian provinces into the Russian Federation will not be accepted by Russia’s neighbors or by most European powers.

Given the passions aroused by the war and its atrocities, Ukraine, even with NATO support, cannot create a stable, functioning state within all the borders it inherited in 1991. If Ukraine tries to regain these territories by force and is encouraged and empowered by the U.S. and NATO to do so, Russia (and not just President Putin) will very likely demolish Ukraine in retaliation. Reality trumps illusion whenever the two conflict.

And if war should stop with the destruction of Ukraine — Kyiv and Lviv leveled as Grozny once was — that would assume that escalation does not involve the use of nuclear weapons. If the Russian leader feels convinced that the U.S. and “Western” goal is to take him out, what is to prevent him taking out others as he goes?

Europeans are not stupid and they increasingly recognize that the USA is not innocent:

Europe’s position will be severely tested during the upcoming winter as the result of drastically curtailed trade with Russia, particularly when it comes to energy. Increasingly, European publics are likely to blame the United States for policies that fuel inflation and bring on economic recession, especially as their currencies weaken against the dollar. The U.S. sanctions on Russia will be seen by many as self-serving attempts to dominate Western Europe.

 

[AstroTurf]

You educated me on literally nothing.
I'm still waiting to find out what it had to do with the US purposefully lying about WMDs as justification for starting a war.

Just a general thought and apologies that it is so terribly off topic.
The last few pages of mostly your posts remind me so much of my brother when he was looking for attention by lashing out and saying hurtful things to all and sundry.
Of course then he hung himself in a secluded corner of the Pretoria Botanical Gardens.
I strongly urge you to speak to someone, be it a family member, a friend or a stranger at the bar.

You need human contact and possibly professional help.

 

[Vorastra]

Good article:

Why the US must press for a ceasefire in Ukraine - Responsible Statecraft

Responsible Statecraft Why the US must press for a ceasefire in Ukraine Analysis -

responsiblestatecraft.org

Europeans are not stupid and they increasingly recognize that the USA is not innocent:

No but the pro-peace people here who shout at me for loving war will complain that Ukraine must fight forever until they win!

 

[Matata]

Do you mean Honduran parachutists? Video was proven to be fake news in another thread...

My apologies. I stand corrected. Then it is honduran parabats. I deleted that tweet. Thank you for pointing it out.

 

[MunosMachos]

Those are fine because they're the bad guys for invading. @buka001 never seems to argue with those people though. Weird.

Interesting indeed:

The Neocons and the Woke Left Are Joining Hands and Leading to Woke War III

By smearing Elon Musk, the Twitter Mob maintains that escalation in Ukraine is the only acceptable view, even if it risks nuclear war.

www.newsweek.com

 

[MunosMachos]

No but the pro-peace people here who shout at me for loving war will complain that Ukraine must fight forever until they win!

Yes, Ukrainians must impale themselves on Russian ammo until the last one for peace.

 

[Howdy]

Did you wake up this morning in a revolutionary mood, wandering which NCA thread you can troll without any real opinion or knowledge on the subject or the posters opinions?

If you are bored, I would suggest you read the last 50k posts, so you don't post dumb schit about other people's opinions and actions.

Buka's Man "C" spotted!

 

[MiW]

You don't even know what I am referring to. So why don't you keep your "dumb schit" to yourself?

The thread is in NCA, specifically about Russo Ukrainian war , if you want to refer to anything else, you are in the wrong place.

 

[Vorastra]

Just a general thought and apologies that it is so terribly off topic.

Forgiven.

The last few pages of mostly your posts remind me so much of my brother when he was looking for attention by lashing out and saying hurtful things to all and sundry.

You need to pay more attention. Two so far have picked up on my point.

Of course then he hung himself in a secluded corner of the Pretoria Botanical Gardens.

Shame, man. Not even joking.

I strongly urge you to speak to someone, be it a family member, a friend or a stranger at the bar.

I'm good, fam. Don't worry.

You need human contact and possibly professional help.

 

[Emjay]

Buka's Man "C" spotted!

Buka's attention sure switched so fast from the plight of the Afghani's, after supporting the USA literally running away from the mess they created, to this. It was so fast that one wonders if he has whiplash.

 

[Howdy]

Just a general thought and apologies that it is so terribly off topic.
The last few pages of mostly your posts remind me so much of my brother when he was looking for attention by lashing out and saying hurtful things to all and sundry.
Of course then he hung himself in a secluded corner of the Pretoria Botanical Gardens.
I strongly urge you to speak to someone, be it a family member, a friend or a stranger at the bar.

You need human contact and possibly professional help.

How caring of you and sorry to hear about your brother.

However, I question your caring when it have been ongoing for no less than 5 threads, just from the other side.

Sorry for having to point out inconvenient facts.

 

[Vorastra]

The thread is in NCA, specifically about Russo Ukrainian war , if you want to refer to anything else, you are in the wrong place.

But you'll only report the off topic comments you don't like though.

 

[Vorastra]

How caring of you and sorry to hear about your brother.

However, I question your caring when it have been ongoing for no less than 5 threads, just from the other side.

Sorry for having to point out inconvenient facts.

No bro. 2 days of posting means I'm going to an hero and commit sudoku.