Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 6

[Grant]

your readiness to judge people you have never met, who have lost actual family on that plane, is disgusting

And yet you support Russia's wilful and intentional murder of civilians as they fire missiles into residential apartment buildings.

Not disgusting?

 

[buka001]

your readiness to judge people you have never met, who have lost actual family on that plane, is disgusting

The thing is.

Which is what originally drew my ire towards you and your hyper pro-Russian stance back in 2014.

I have family in the Netherlands. MH-17 was a huge event for them. I have met people who lost friends and family on the flight.

They would probably punch you if they read half the rubbish you post on MH-17.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Are you making up definitions again?

no need for that, I'm simply right and you are simply wrong, false flag is the act of attribution to another party, regardless of who performed the actual act

false flag

1. a flag flown on a ship to hide which country it comes from or which side it…

dictionary.cambridge.org

Definition of false flag | Dictionary.com

False flag definition, an attack or other hostile action that obscures the identity of the participants carrying out the action while implicating another group or nation as the perpetrator (often used attributively): Evidence suggests that the covert operation was a false flag.The false flag...

www.dictionary.com

a misrepresentation of affiliation or motivation or a false equivalence deliberately put forth to manipulate the context, perception, or frame of an action, object, or argument (often used attributively):

 

[MiW]

Enlightening

 

[buka001]

no need for that, I'm simply right and you are simply wrong, false flag is the act of attribution to another party, regardless of who performed the actual act

false flag

1. a flag flown on a ship to hide which country it comes from or which side it…

dictionary.cambridge.org

You didn't read the definition you posted?

a flag flown on a ship to hide which country it comes from or which side it is fighting for:
The attacking ship was able to get close to the enemy by flying a false flag.
They were sailing under false colors.
a political or military action that is made to appear to have been carried out by a group that is not actually responsible:
He described the train bombings as "false flags."
The burning of the building was believed to be a false flag operation by Nazis.

 

[sefeddt]

Seems like this photo is most likely the original according to photoshop experts and forensic software:

Swastika was most likely added later:

Still a weird collection of flags, Nato, Azov and DNR? Bizarre...

Wont be the 1st time Pro Russians have fake doctored pics.

 

[WollieVerstege]

The thing is.

Which is what originally drew my ire towards you and your hyper pro-Russian stance back in 2014.

I have family in the Netherlands. MH-17 was a huge event for them. I have met people who lost friends and family on the flight.

They would probably punch you if they read half the rubbish you post on MH-17.

So true.

I also know someone that had both a family member and a colleague die on that flight. I asked him just before the judgement what he would do if it turned out that Ukraine was in fact responsible. His response (which surprised me a little) was that he would take on the Dutch government, demanding to know why they are aligned with murderers. He will use social media and the press in general and he will not stop until the Dutch government resigns in disgrace. That is the downside/upside, depending on your point of view, of living in an open and democratic society.

This is the crux of the matter, the Dutch government would never have aligned themselves with the Ukraine if there was even the slightest chance that they were guilty. No politician, anywhere on earth, wants to give up power and will never torpedo their own careers like that.

 

[Dave]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594461373878108165

Click to see the actual 1890s caption.

And nothing has changed, if anything a lot of Russians are even worse now.

 

[Matata]

New news about mobik morale:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594716786649628673

Source:

Роман Сапоньков

Канал Романа Сапонькова, военного журналиста. Личные сообщения: @Saponkov Перевод только по номеру телефона, Сбер, СБП: +7(964)342-50-04 Карт нет. Если видите номер карты, это мошенники.

t.me

 

[WhosThis]

Most Polish people support Ukraine. One of the guys who died was actually involved in helping them. Your concern trolling is noted.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594656769330102277

It's a pity not half the money they are sending to Ukraine is going towards the children being fcked by american weapons in Yemen. But i mean it kind of makes sense. Yemen has only seen a 400 000 civilian body count. Whereas Ukraine has seen a whopping 6000 civilian deaths give or take.

So, I fully understand the outcry and rage. I mean, 6000 European lives> 400 000 yemeni lives right.
I mentioned Ukraine though. Ukraine. Ukraine thread. Watch the triggered lose their sht. Cant deal with anything other than Ukraine right now. Programming, beep boop beep, must not acknowledge, beep boop, anything but Ukraine. Beep boop beep, im a hypocrite. Beep.

 

[Dave]

It's a pity not half the money they are sending to Ukraine is going towards the children being fcked by american weapons in Yemen. But i mean it kind of makes sense. Yemen has only seen a 400 000 civilian body count. Whereas Ukraine has seen a whopping 6000 civilian deaths give or take.

So, I fully understand the outcry and rage. I mean, 6000 European lives> 400 000 yemeni lives right.

 

[buka001]

It's a pity not half the money they are sending to Ukraine is going towards the children being fcked by american weapons in Yemen. But i mean it kind of makes sense. Yemen has only seen a 400 000 civilian body count. Whereas Ukraine has seen a whopping 6000 civilian deaths give or take.

So, I fully understand the outcry and rage. I mean, 6000 European lives> 400 000 yemeni lives right.
I mentioned Ukraine though. Ukraine. Ukraine thread. Watch the triggered lose their sht. Cant deal with anything other than Ukraine right now. Programming, beep boop beep, must not acknowledge, beep boop, anything but Ukraine. Beep boop beep, im a hypocrite. Beep.

Why does no one ever mention Saudi Arabia?

They are bombing Yemen.

They don't get the weapons for free. They pay above market rates for those weapons.

Saudi are also supported by Russia.

Saudis Sign Military Cooperation Agreement With Russia

Saudi Arabia and Russia have signed a military cooperation agreement at an arms expo outside Moscow.

www.rferl.org

Russia is selling more weapons to Saudi Arabia and the UAE

Russia's share of the Middle East defence market has doubled in three years, establishing a foothold in one of the world's most lucrative defense markets. Who stands to gain or lose?

www.trtworld.com

Why Russia is increasing military ties with Saudi Arabia and Egypt

Being the second-largest arms producer and exporter in the world after the US, Russia aims to increase its arms deals in the region, which will give it more hard currency inflow

www.middleeasteye.net

The US are not flying their own jets in Saudi.

 

[Mirai]

It's a pity not half the money they are sending to Ukraine is going towards the children being fcked by american weapons in Yemen. But i mean it kind of makes sense. Yemen has only seen a 400 000 civilian body count. Whereas Ukraine has seen a whopping 6000 civilian deaths give or take.

Why the fsck should they send money to Yemen, when there is a war on their own doorstep perpetrated by a country which gave NATO an ultimatum to withdraw from former Warsaw Pact countries? Why can't UAE pay for Yemen? Or Qatar, which is hosting the football world cup? Or Israel? Or Egypt? Or Jordan? Or OPEC? They're all nearby.


And Poland and other nations are HELPING Yemen, here's just three links which can be easily found on Google:

Gdzie działamy - Jemen - Polska Akcja Humanitarna

www.pah.org.pl

Jemen - Caritas Polska

W Jemenie trwa największy kryzys humanitarny na świecie, który wywołała trwająca już pięć lat wojna domowa. 24 miliony osób potrzebuje pomocy, a co trzeci Jemeńczyk nie wie, kiedy zje kolejny posiłek. Caritas Polska organizuje pomoc i apeluje o wsparcie dla Jemeńczyków.

caritas.pl

YEMEN: help us provide urgent relief

Your donations will help us provide essential drugs and medical help for Yemen #DirectHelp #DirectPlace

pcpm.org.pl

So, I fully understand the outcry and rage. I mean, 6000 European lives> 400 000 yemeni lives right.

No you don't.

I mentioned Ukraine though. Ukraine. Ukraine thread. Watch the triggered lose their sht. Cant deal with anything other than Ukraine right now. Programming, beep boop beep, must not acknowledge, beep boop, anything but Ukraine. Beep boop beep, im a hypocrite. Beep.

Stop spreading disinformation.

Just because some countries are doing something good by for example taking in refugees and providing aid, doesn't mean they have to do this everywhere and for everyone. Should you be cursed when you give money to one beggar but not another one? What kind of mad logic is this anyway? And how the fsck do you know that if Ukraine wasn't helped by admitting women with kids and providing aid there wouldn't have been more dead civilians there?

Why don't you just stop trolling?

 

[sefeddt]

That's nice, except for the facts that show a BUK system being transported from a Russian base into Donetsk up to a launch location, firing the missile moments before MH-17 was hit, then being pulled out of Donetsk, back into Russia, with one missile missing.

Then there is the Russian presenter that claimed it was separatists, only for the same presenter to claim it was Ukraine shortly after.

 

[Wut]

Seems like this photo is most likely the original according to photoshop experts and forensic software:

Swastika was most likely added later:

Still a weird collection of flags, Nato, Azov and DNR? Bizarre...

Wont be the 1st time Pro Russians have fake doctored pics.

I have to ask, but are you guys visually impaired?

 

[Cray]

no need for that, I'm simply right and you are simply wrong, false flag is the act of attribution to another party, regardless of who performed the actual act

Have you ever admitted to being wrong, in your life? Because despite numerous instances of you clearly talking out of your backside, I don't think I have ever seen it on this forum.

So you simply stating that you are right, carries about as much worth as an assurance from Putin.

 

[Cray]

touched a nerve I see, the truth can be uncomfortable sometimes, I understand

If I heard the truth from you it would indeed by uncomfortable, mainly because it's so rare coming from you.

 

[Dave]

If I heard the truth from you it would indeed by uncomfortable, mainly because it's so rare coming from you.

Something that has never happened can't really be described as rare, it's nonexistent.

 

[Cray]

You didn't read the definition you posted?

Narrow and the English language have a very complicated relationship.

 

[sefeddt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594733877913960448