Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 6

[Dave]

Kherson supermarkets reopen with Ukrainian supplies, shoppers are really happy to be able to buy Coca Cola again

 

[Mirai]

Is the beginning of the end of Russia becoming clearer? Will a coup topple Putin?

A civil war is inevitable" - Putin agent expects coup​

Is Russia on the verge of chaos? A Russian Domestic Intelligence Service (FSB)
whistleblower, from whom emails were leaked, warns of an impending civil war.

Jonas Bucher

That's what it's about​

• Leaked emails from FSB agents warn of a civil war in Russia.
• Yevgeny Prigoschin, head of the Wagner mercenary group, is said to be preparing a bloody putsch.
• The agents fear that Russia will sink into "total chaos".

Writing regular messages to Russian dissident-in-exile Vladimir Osechkin, an agent dubbed the "Wind of Change" reveals the anger and dissatisfaction within the Russian Intelligence Service (FSB) over the war that began with Russia's February 24invasion of Ukraine . Osechkin is a Russian human rights activist who runs the anti-corruption website Gulagu.net. The emails were provided to Newsweek by Igor Sushko, executive director of the Wind of Change Research Group, a Washington-based nonprofit. Sushko translated the correspondence from Russian into English.

Russia will sink into "terror".​

Previous FSB letters written by the same whistleblower and published by Osechkin were analyzed by Christo Grozev, an expert for the FSB. He said he showed the emails to two FSB officers who "had no doubt that they were written by a colleague." The agent's most recent emails in November describe civil unrest and conflict within the Kremlin. An "inevitable" civil war is predicted - Russia will soon "descend into the abyss of terror" as the people grow weary of war.

Prigozhin and Kadyrov as a threat to Putin​

The whistleblower focuses on Yevgeny Prigozhin , an ally of Putin and founder of the Wagner mercenary force, and Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov . Both Prigozhin and Kadyrov have consistently criticized the way in which Putin's war against Ukraine is being conducted and appear to be partly supportive of one another, suggesting that cracks may be forming within the Kremlin. The US think tank Institute for the Study of War (ISW) also came to the conclusion at the end of October that Prigozhin and his military group "could pose a threat to Putin's rule". The FSB agent said, however, that "there is no 'simple transfer of power' model" in Russia.

"There is no way to change everything in Russia so that the country functions as a whole and does not fall into the abyss of terror," says the email, which describes how a civil war in the country would play out.

Prigozhin cannot simply be suppressed​

“In the beginning it could be a random riot, with nothing but looting and chaotic skirmishes between everyone involved. Let me try to explain: the struggle of the security agencies against the structures of Prigozhin, a real war against each other, is bad, but generally inevitable," writes the agent. «Or there will be fights between the regions over the sharing of resources. Or a tussle between different forces for control of regions or parts of the country."

But the country could also descend into total chaos: the whistleblower hinted that if the Kremlin posed a threat to Putin's rule, it would not be easy to repress Prigozhin. "And when the particularly 'clever' executives in the FSB gloss over Prigozhin as alien to the system and say we have a structure that can neutralize him if necessary, that's nonsense."

“We could lose control of the country”​

In an even more urgent Nov. 8 email, FSB whistleblower Osechkin warned that Prigozhin was preparing brigades for “internal Russian terror” amid a spate of protests and unrest in several regions of Russia over reports of fierce fighting more than 1,000 Russians were killed in Ukraine within three days. "If everything goes according to Prigozhin's scenario, we will lose both control and the country," she concluded.

This is just one 'agent' claiming stuff. We have no idea if this is true, if this is Kremlin disinform, maybe it is a honeypot like Operation Trust, maybe it's BS made up by the Western author, maybe it's some crank posting nonsense in Russia to make himself feel important, maybe it is real but the guy is mistaken, etc. It should be easy to suppress Prigozhin or Kadyrov.

 

[Mirai]

So basically, you shouldn't use your freedoms and criticize the West, because you would get killed for doing so in Russia?
Then you end your post by saying people don't appreciate their freedoms, while sailing it to a person who's actually practicing it????

Nobody is going to deport anyone for having mere opinions. But if you harrass refugees or aid Russia, you then deserve legal consequences and if you're a foreigner on a visa, you may be deported.

 

[Sneeky]

Let's be clear, I hate satanic Nazi's far more than I support Russia and the ANC.

How about those in Russia? Can we get a DeNazify on 1,2,3?

 

[Sneeky]

err, yeah you ought to chat to some of those people, regular people, not the governments who represent them

I've met at least a couple of Malaysians who are cheering on the destruction of Ukraine, they are beyond convinced Ukraine shot that plane down

I met a flat earther the other day, just one, thank god not 2. I laughed at him openly to his face.

 

[Sneeky]

if they blame Russia for it, accident or not, it is a false flag

you can implicate another party with or without having planned it beforehand, if that other party happens to be a nation state, that's a false flag

Only if the allegation was false, which it was not. Make peace with it and move on to other false flags of your own.

 

[Dave]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594068228292091905

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

Think long term. Do you really want people who don't know if they are men or women at every corner? That is what is happening in the USA/EU. They are already indoctrinating kids, and arresting parents who protest against it.

Russia is a traditional family values place. It has it's bad, just like everywhere else though. They could have handled things differently, but overall I believe they're better than the West.

Americans "don't know if they are men or women at every corner".
All Americans are like that?
Americans don't have family values?

Okee dokee buddy.

 

[Dave]

Looks like NarrowBrain is on Twitter

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594762977353338892

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

This is great - there is another Russia other than Putins.
A more sane peace loving Russia - and here they have a platform.

I hope they are heard.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594738972521013249

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

Kiev lacks resources for offensive on Crimea, West will be of no help — Russian legislator

Viktor Bondarev stressed that Crimea would be with Russia forever

tass.com

Ukraine does not have the resources to attack Crimea, while the West will not help Kiev in this adventure, the chairman of the Federation Council’s committee on defense and security, Viktor Bondarev, said on Monday.

"Russia regained Crimea in the spring of 2014. It is our territory. Its people expressed the wish to be together with our country. The Kiev authorities’ declared intention to restore the state of affairs of February 2014 is nothing more than flirting with their own citizens and the wish to persuade them of a forthcoming victory, an attempt to bolster the morale of the army and to show off to their Western patrons in the hope of they will increase support," Bondarev said.

Okay then ............. reminds of .....

Putin Boasts of Being Able to Take Kiev in 2 Weeks​

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

 

[tetrasect]

 

[Wut]

No detective work norrad.
New name, old narrative - this is not higher grade stuff.

Crawls out like clockwork. Gonna cry again Walter?

 

[Wut]

For pointing out a BS picture? Whatever makes you sleep better Dave.

He's just deflecting because he was one of the visually impaired who fell for that poorly photoshopped picture

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Ouch

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594780175597801472

reminder:

pro-Ukraine anti-Russia OSINT also said Russia attacked Poland until it became too obvious that it was in fact Ukraine

OSINT = propaganda for those who are awake enough to realize MSM is pure BS, but not quite smart enough to realize OSINT is as well

 

[ToxicBunny]

reminder:

pro-Ukraine anti-Russia OSINT also said Russia attacked Poland until it became too obvious that it was in fact Ukraine

OSINT = propaganda for those who are awake enough to realize MSM is pure BS, but not quite smart enough to realize OSINT is as well

So you dispute the numbers then?

 

[BBSA]

What's the latest? Have they gotten rid of all the satanists? What are they onto now?

It is just a family feud.... non of your business!

 

[Blu82]

reminder:

pro-Ukraine anti-Russia OSINT also said Russia attacked Poland until it became too obvious that it was in fact Ukraine

OSINT = propaganda for those who are awake enough to realize MSM is pure BS, but not quite smart enough to realize OSINT is as well

I have bad news for you given the context in the second rant by tyre guy regarding that explosion in Poland it is now my opinion that missile is Russian. That method to exploit Doppler radars is real. This means the Sentry stationed over Poland could not track the missile up until it turned towards Poland and given that the warhead was fused for ground detonation makes it Russian.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594895500964204550

 

[sefeddt]

I'm sure there will be many such reports coming out of Kherson

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594789591046840320