Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 6

[WhosThis]

Russia has a strange way of supporting Yemen -

Russia-Saudi relations ‘as warm as the weather in Riyadh,’ Prince Abdulaziz says

RIYADH: Russia-Saudi relations “as warm as the weather in Riyadh”, the Kingdom's energy minister Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman told media on Thursday after attending a meeting in Russia with the country's deputy prime minister. The meeting between Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman and Novak lasted for...

www.arabnews.com

Can you show me any weapons deals that the Russians have signed with Yemen, that rival the value of weapons deals they have signed with Saudi Arabia?

In your extensive analysis of the war in Yemen, what is your take on Lavrov's comments from 2017?

Or how Russia supports Iran? Iran that is funding the Houthi Rebels, that appose the Saudi aligned faction?

Russia has offered mild mannered rhetoric, suggesting that it mediate the conflict, yet they have failed to actually publish any plans to do so? Supporting both factions, providing zero material support to any of the Yemen factions, while simultaneously supporting both Saudi and Iran in way of weapons sales and close economic and diplomatic ties.

And that is the key. Russia is not "helping" anyone in Yemen. They merely pander to the both sides of the factions involved in the war.

I am sure you have that all buttoned up in your analysis?

But, hey the USA sold Saudi some weapons, so its clearly America at fault. Not any of the Arab nations.

Im assuming this is the justification for the 400 000 plus civilians killed. Detract from the fact that you and your posse of ukranian sympathizers would rather see billions funneled into the ukraine war and argue no one should help Yemen.

Maybe Russia is not innocent in the Yemen crisis. I dont have all the facts. Does not change the fact that there is no outcry or assistance from the world towards yemen. You cannot even compare the atrocities that is unfolding in yemen to anything that is currently happening in Ukraine.

As we speak 10s of thousands of children are dying in yemen.
Admittingly i can respect you for taking the time to at least read of what is going on in Yemen. Which actually gives me some hope that perhaps... just maybe there is some hope for humanity.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Why should they have known?

because everything is BS until verified, especially when it is something that benefits the party making the accusation during war time

So one story out of hundreds that you have called BS on this thread turns out to be false and you run around crowing as if that somehow proves something about your ability to judge journalism?

one? LMAO

if you think it is one you are still wearing those blinkers

 

[Wut]

I have bad news for you given the context in the second rant by tyre guy regarding that explosion in Poland it is now my opinion that missile is Russian. That method to exploit Doppler radars is real. This means the Sentry stationed over Poland could not track the missile up until it turned towards Poland and given that the warhead was fused for ground detonation makes it Russian.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594895500964204550

 

[buka001]

Im assuming this is the justification for the 400 000 plus civilians killed. Detract from the fact that you and your posse of ukranian sympathizers would rather see billions funneled into the ukraine war and argue no one should help Yemen.

Maybe Russia is not innocent in the Yemen crisis. I dont have all the facts. Does not change the fact that there is no outcry or assistance from the world towards yemen. You cannot even compare the atrocities that is unfolding in yemen to anything that is currently happening in Ukraine.

As we speak 10s of thousands of children are dying in yemen.
Admittingly i can respect you for taking the time to at least read of what is going on in Yemen. Which actually gives me some hope that perhaps... just maybe there is some hope for humanity.

I absolutely get you in terms of the silence on what is happening in Yemen.

There is a lot at play, as to why.

NIMBY, its the Middle East, where is Yemen on the map, fatigue from yet another middle east conflict, these type of things all feature in the general mind of the public.

Same issues in Africa. Plenty of conflict killing dozens of people everyday. Same indifference from society in general.

vs Ukraine, being in Europe, on the doorstep of Poland etc. Feels closer. Russia invading one of the ex-Soviets states raises very big anxieties based on historical precedents of what they did to the Baltic states and how they treated these states over the Cold War. The comparisons to Nazi aggression and the consequences of what happens when you appease such aggression. These all feature and what drives more concern towards this conflict.

It is sad and unfortunate. These disparities do exist.

However, because people "ignore" one conflict, does not mean the aggressor of another conflict should get less scrutiny. They should face the same level of scrutiny and criticism.

Hence, why I originally asked, why no mention of Saudi Arabia when you mention the war in Yemen. They are driving the conflict. If the US stopped supplying them with weapons, they would buy them elsewhere.

 

[buka001]

because everything is BS until verified, especially when it is something that benefits the party making the accusation during war time


one? LMAO

if you think it is one you are still wearing those blinkers

So your narrative about MH-17 is BS, by your standards and the Dutch narrative is true, because the Dutch have been able to verify and prove the culpability of Russia in the shooting of MH-17.

At last, you are beginning to admit you are wrong.

 

[WhosThis]

Hence, why I originally asked, why no mention of Saudi Arabia when you mention the war in Yemen. They are driving the conflict. If the US stopped supplying them with weapons, they would buy them elsewhere.

Initially i did a few posts back. In fact, I got into a lot of sht at work when we did business in Saudi and I refused to work on the project due to what Saudi is doing. Almost lost my job. But it is what it is. Will not support a country doing what they are doing.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Some good laughs to be had here

A whole lot more to be had here

@NarrowBandFtw Three day war was mentioned at 1:00. Any comments?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Crispy

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593757207694303233

Couldn't see any identifying marks anywhere. Not even on the driver. Care to supply the source?

 

[tetrasect]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594956211614515200

 

[Dave]

Your what about argument is just a guise to try and hide your hypocrisy.

 

[Polymathic]

 

[AlmightyBender]

Initially i did a few posts back. In fact, I got into a lot of sht at work when we did business in Saudi and I refused to work on the project due to what Saudi is doing. Almost lost my job. But it is what it is. Will not support a country doing what they are doing.

Saudi deserves outright condemnation. We agree in this.

And Russia is conducting themselves as bad or worse than Saudi and has been for a long time. Can we agree on this?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

@NarrowBandFtw Three day war was mentioned at 1:00. Any comments?

why would I need to comment on some random TV person's delusions?
are you trying to say speculation on television is somehow confirmation of an official military plan?

because ... you know ... that would just be silly

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Either you saw the news back then or you did not.

All those incidents were in the news. The biggest shock to me was when our SANDF fled a village that came fire from rebels in DRC. Leaving villagers to be slaughtered. This was later recalled and instead charges were brought against the soldiers for misconduct and painted as merely being AWOL.

Source for your claims? I was in the SANDF when some soldiers tried to "strike". They were actually on a day's leave and did a protest action out of uniform. One of the reasons Lindiwe Sisulu was removed from the Minister of Defence portfolio for firing them illegally and they were reinstated.

The SANDF actually did very well in the DRC after being vastly outnumbered and the 8th longest sniper kill of 2125 metres was recorded in 2013.

Longest recorded sniper kills - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sources for the rest of your claims please?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594081581173739521

Yeah right. The Russian soldier committed a war crime using a false surrender.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

spontaneous protest for sure
and no Nazis at all

‘All the real skinheads went to Ukraine’: An American Neo-Nazi outlines the crimes of his Ukrainian ‘colleagues’

American Neo-Nazi Kent ‘Boneface’ McLellan exposes the reality of the Ukraine conflict both now and before

www.rt.com

RT? Really? Your handler didn't send new material?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Think long term. Do you really want people who don't know if they are men or women at every corner? That is what is happening in the USA/EU. They are already indoctrinating kids, and arresting parents who protest against it.

Russia is a traditional family values place. It has it's bad, just like everywhere else though. They could have handled things differently, but overall I believe they're better than the West.

Why not go live there and volunteer to be mobilised to change the evil ways of the west?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

War crimes commited by Ukrainian soldiers:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/20/world/europe/russian-soldiers-shot-ukraine.html

The real war crime under protocol I of the Geneva Convention is a false surrender by the Russians. May I suggest you read the Geneva Convention before apportioning blame?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Cognitive dissonance is strong in you. Then again, I can't blame you. Western media has indoctrinated most of the people to believe that Russia is satan incarnate. The level of hypocrisy in the West is truly astounding.

Nope. the video shows a surrendering Russian firing at his captors before they shoot back.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I bet the soldier thought he was going to pull a fast one on them, or just didn't know the laws existed because his country cares less about things as "insignificant" as laws. World's "2nd best military" they said.

The 3 day war revealed a lot to the world.

Soldiers in the West have to pass exams on the Geneva Convention, Hague Convention, Code of Conduct and Rules of War. I seriously doubt those subjects will be prioritised in the 2 days to 3 weeks of training Russian Mobiks get.