Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 6

[Mirai]

The perfect whooooosh answer.

Cue: Harps & violins ...

Your responses are not commensurate with my posts. Maybe try to actually read what's written? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I didn't say he was a puppet, I said he was powerless. Don't make up fairytales and smokescreen.

Wow, an elected executive president leading his people in a war is powerless? I bet you couldn't walk into Ukraine and take over the leadership. If he was powerless, you could have.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I'm not sure, but ask Julian Assange. He'd be able to tell you what that was all about. Oh, he cannot.

Oh, you were with Julian Assange? Your claims are getting more incredible daily.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

It's called The News. Main Stream Media.
Most people have access to it, unless of course they live 1000km away from a coal mine.

Deflection. Give a link to US snipers shooting people in the street in Iraq? You must know of a link seeing you stated it's true and in the MSM. Or is this just another incredible claim from you?

 

[LetsDance]

When Russia is winning the trolls say its Liberation, when Russia is losing they all come to talk about the Nazis.

Ever watched the movie Waterboy? Well, say Nazi to a russian and they turn ubermensch

 

[saturnz]

You find Jimmy Dore credible? I could dress a group of Afrikaners up, have them sing Nazi songs, put it on YT and say Afrikaners are Nazis.

so do it and see how far you get...

 

[Paulsie]

The problem with people asking for a slight shred of evidence is you assuming they can read. I've previously supplied such evidence, interviews with radicals in the Ukraine from the Ukrainian media.

It just proves my point.

Not "they can read", but "they want to read". They're not here to solve the big Ukraine conflict. They're here to make themselves feel good and relevant.

I actually feel sorry for them (not), because they cannot begin the face the possibility they might actually be wrong. Again.

 

[Wut]

Deflection. Give a link to US snipers shooting people in the street in Iraq? You must know of a link seeing you stated it's true and in the MSM. Or is this just another incredible claim from you?

Witnesses: Eddie Gallagher shot civilians in Iraq

But no one saw him pull the trigger.

www.navytimes.com

10 years for Army sniper for killing Iraqi civilian

A U.S. Army sniper convicted of killing an unarmed Iraqi civilian and planting evidence on his body was sentenced Sunday to 10 years in prison.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Mirai]

Not "they can read", but "they want to read". They're not here to solve the big Ukraine conflict. They're here to make themselves feel good and relevant.

I actually feel sorry for them (not), because they cannot begin the face the possibility they might actually be wrong. Again.

Yes you are wrong.

 

[Mirai]

Ever watched the movie Waterboy? Well, say Nazi to a russian and they turn ubermensch

Russians usually use 'fascist'.

 

[BBSA]

Are Nazis right wingers or left wingers.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

And that's precisely why he is where he is.

No, it's not. He's where he is for releasing secret documents. Time to get your facts straight Paul. Link to that video?

 

[Howdy]

Your responses are not commensurate with my posts. Maybe try to actually read what's written? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Totally commensurate. You literally made off the Ukraine as wanting to join the west, totally disregarding the population in the east. You have tried denying historical facts, much of Ukraine's recent history. As such the "Harps and violins" and "Whoooosh!".

A favour please:
Don't drag the convo here onto other areas of the forum, then misconstruing what was said to smear them, without telling people. This is the second time you've done it. It's pathetically vuilgat, syphilitically dirty trolling tactics and cowardly. The "rude" you whinge about does not even begin to describe it. Some self-awareness please. Thank you.

 

[Cray]

The problem with people asking for a slight shred of evidence is you assuming they can read. I've previously supplied such evidence, interviews with radicals in the Ukraine from the Ukrainian media.

Your evidence proves that Ukraine has radicals who say things, it doesn't prove that they have any meaningful influence on the Ukranian government.

 

[Mirai]

Are Nazis right wingers or left wingers.

Russian contractors are the Nazis.

Totally commensurate. You literally made off the Ukraine as wanting to join the west, totally disregarding the population in the east. You have tried denying historical facts, much of Ukraine's recent history. As such the "Harps and violins" and "Whoooosh!".

So you didn't read what I wrote.

I told you that no agreements are ever in 100%.

If there are people in Ukraine who disagree they have to vote accordingly in Ukrainian elections but WITHOUT RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE. So no Russian little green men, no Russian gangs and insurgents, no Russian threats of war. Russia promised to respect Ukraine's territorial integrity in the Budapest Memorandum and in the United Nations Charter. It's up to Ukraine and her people to decide what they do and not Russia, or anyone else. It's Russia which is the only party which is attacking the sovereign state of Ukraine.

If we were to apply your method of fixing this, no country would be able to govern itself because 100% consensus does not exist anywhere in the world.

A favour please:
Don't drag the convo here onto other areas of the forum, then misconstruing what was said to smear them, without telling people. This is the second time you've done it. It's pathetically vuilgat, syphilitically dirty trolling tactics and cowardly. The "rude" you whinge about does not even begin to describe it. Some self-awareness please. Thank you.

Actually I didn't mention you. You incriminated yourself so take that on yourself. I just commented quite fairly on a phenomenon among people who think Putin will save them.

 

[Howdy]

Your evidence proves that Ukraine has radicals who say things, it doesn't prove that they have any meaningful influence on the Ukranian government.

If you go dig, you'll find many were actually absorbed (with much shock) into Zelensky's government. You can search for yourself if you really are really interested, but the details are out there. I suggest a google date filter using dates from 2019 to 2020. to avoid the noise.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I remember you saying I should go to Russia @Mirai and after having watched this video I would gladly emigrate, alas, my youth and earning potential is gone.

Yeah. I can make a video of people safe in Central Johannesburg too...

 

[Mirai]

If you go dig, you'll find many were actually absorbed (with much shock) into Zelensky's government. You can search for yourself if you really are really interested, but the details are out there. I suggest a google date filter using dates from 2019 to 2020. to avoid the noise.

Shock. Many ex-Nazis were absorbed into West Germany. So West Germany is Nazi. Many NP were absorbed into ANC, so ANC is like Verwoerd? NASA took Nasis, so NASA is Nazi. Former communists were absorbed into governments all over Eastern Europe, so they're all communist governments? Seriously. You're using tenous evidence to justify a full blown out war. Go away.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

What kind of shepherd eats his flock of sheep?

Looks like @capd hasn't realised you should never consume the stash you intend to sell.

 

[Mirai]

So all in all Howdy shows he knows nothing. He wants to use special pleading to make Ukraine the exception because some people had gripes there, and Russia funded an insurgency which led to a war which killed people and now Russia invaded the rest of Ukraine beyond what they even wanted to 'annex' (puke), Ukraine must give in and divide itself up because some guys in the Kremlin decided to fuel an insurgency and start a war.

Take home message is, if some powerful guy invadedes you after fueling an insurgency, just roll over and give him your country. And he is excused. That's the way to handle disagreements in the 21st century.