Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 7

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Ukraine shot down 21 out of 33 Russian missiles in latest attack: Military official​

Ukraine shot down 21 out of 33 incoming missiles fired by Russia on Saturday at targets across the country, Ukraine’s top commander Valeriy Zaluzhnyi has said.
Ukraine shot down 18 of 28 inbound cruise missiles and three out of five guided air-to-surface missiles, he posted on Telegram. Officials reported strikes across the country, including near Kyiv, Kharkiv, Lviv and Dnipro.
 
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The Japanese Prime Minister Kishada said the following in a joint statement with Biden: "We state unequivocally that any use of a nuclear weapon by Russia in Ukraine would be an act of hostility against humanity and unjustifiable in any way."

This is how Medvedev reacted to the statement:

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Medvedev says Japanese PM should disembowel himself

Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev accused Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida on Saturday of shameful subservience to the United States and suggested he should ritually disembowel himself.
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Gramps66 said:
:rolleyes: Maybe you should look up what the Mi6 guy told The Guardian Newspaper about that conspiricy theory of yours that was debunked long ago. Try to keep up please.
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Please tell us what the heck you're on about. Still no comment on the subject but a comment on me. Do you know how a forum works?
 
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buchanan8 said:
I mean it's been confirmed all over Twitter by Matt Taibbi (who was given the Twitter inside info from Elon Musk) that Russian interference in the 2016 elections was a giant conspiracy theory. But of course Cosmik would still belive that utter nonsense :ROFL:
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What the heck are you on about? How about commenting on the topic and not on me.
 
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Tun@ said:
Could well be but i won't swallow they were there & unknown about. You think that chunk of steel wasn't getting picked up on any sonar?
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Too close to be picked up and the carrier's noise would mask the noise of the sub. According to my former submariner friend, SA subs used to do this and hide under merchant vessels during war games with other navies. While they were looking for the SA sub, it was in the noise of the merchant ship plotting a firing solution.

With a warship the submarine's approach is via the stern in the propellor wash which negates any sonar. All vessels, including submarines, are blind due to noise astern. The reason for the "Crazy Ivan" sudden turn submarines make to check for a trailing submarine in their baffles. Either the following submarine goes full astern and makes a big noise giving itself away to avoid a collision or it stops its propellor and keeps quiet, risking a collision, many of which have occurred.

Aircraft carriers also don't usually have sonar, the reason for a destroyer escort to keep a sonar screen around them.
 
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Paulsie said:
Really?? The Lybians would beg to differ when it comes to the NATO-led intervention.

None of the member states were under threat. As the word above self-describes, it was an intervention on a foreign territory.

But of course, it was with an agreement by the UN. So I guess the NATO can defend anyone around the world and invade countries, as long as they have good enough reason, right?
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Ah. Libya again. There wasn't a single NATO boot on the ground and the UN asked NATO to enforce a no fly zone. It was a UN request. Why do you simps always default to the same old debunked argument?

The UN isn't a good enough reason for you? It had to be voted for before NATO went in and the majority of the world said yes.

By the way, How are your Ruble investments doing?
 
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LetsDance said:
NATO is a tool of the armed forces for the U.S - don't kid yourself. Should have closed shop ages ago, but it remains a convenient tool.
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The armed forces of the USA are but a single armed force of 30 armed forces that make up NATO. All members are subservient to their governments, not the US.

You clearly have no cooking clue what NATO is.
 
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Cosmik Debris said:
Too close to be picked up and the carrier's noise would mask the noise of the sub. According to my former submariner friend, SA subs used to do this and hide under merchant vessels during war games with other navies. While they were looking for the SA sub, it was in the noise of the merchant ship plotting a firing solution.

With a warship the submarine's approach is via the stern in the propellor wash which negates any sonar. All vessels, including submarines, are blind due to noise astern. The reason for the "Crazy Ivan" sudden turn submarines make to check for a trailing submarine in their baffles. Either the following submarine goes full astern and makes a big noise giving itself away to avoid a collision or it stops its propellor and keeps quiet, risking a collision, many of which have occurred.

Aircraft carriers also don't usually have sonar, the reason for a destroyer escort to keep a sonar screen around them.
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I hear what your saying but tend to disagree but i'm not a naval person, your coming at it from an audible point of view - see below, where's all the noise/clutter astern? Raise the tilt angle & you'll see it no doubt but then if you wanted to be looking there its tune-able out also. I don't swallow you going to hide a 100m sub astern of me & i won't know its there.

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Edit - Anyway i guess its a moot point discussion as theres no real need for a sub to go knocking on a ships hull other than a PR stunt anyhow.
 
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