Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 7

[~AoA~]

Here you go.

While talks continued in Belarus and Istanbul, Russia’s leadership kept repeating that it would reach the goals of its military campaign: ‘denazification’ (regime change) and ‘demilitarisation’ (the destruction of Ukraine’s military potential). The reality on the ground showed Russian troops wouldn’t have withdrawn from the newly occupied territories in the south and east of Ukraine, and were making preparations for lasting rule. Negotiators from the Russian side had been low-ranking politicians that had no power to sign any deals and no direct line to Putin, which was a signal to the Ukrainian negotiating team. Like the Minsk agreements in the last years before the invasion and the December ‘security guarantees’, Russia’s approach to the March negotiations likely wasn’t genuine. Its recent escalation only proves the Kremlin prioritises territorial gains over diplomacy and treats negotiations as a way to buy time to strengthen its armed forces.

No, the West Didn’t Halt Ukraine’s Peace Talks With Russia - International Viewpoint - online socialist magazine

“We therefore shouldn't fetishize peace talks, but ground a leftwing vision of the war and the opportunities for ending it in a realistic analysis of the interests, resources and strategies of the parties involved. With this vision, we need to ask: what kind of peace would be progressive and...

internationalviewpoint.org

Got any credible sources for us pls?

 

[Matata]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617523207095070723

 

[Gramps66]

Smiling as she shakes the hand of a guy who propagates Nuclear War fear mongering and is fully committed to supporting his Imprealistic Regime who have killed 30 000 Ukrainian civilians.

I am renouncing my SA citizenship. F##k this sh!+

Bwahahahahahaha*breathes*hahahahaha

What Russia should not get :

Points 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6.

Now Russia will just take it and you can Bwahahaha some more. Reality and you feelings are two totally different things.

 

[sefeddt]

Got any credible sources for us pls?

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www.nytimes.com

That is also an acknowledgment that the current Russian team negotiating with Ukraine is low-ranking and has little authority to settle the most difficult issues. So peace appears a very long way away.

 

[LetsDance]

Pandor has insisted that South Africa will not be dragged into taking sides in the war and has criticised the West for its selective condemnation of Russia, while ignoring other acts of aggression such as the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory.

Exactly!! First remove the forest from your eye.

 

[~AoA~]

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www.nytimes.com

That is also an acknowledgment that the current Russian team negotiating with Ukraine is low-ranking and has little authority to settle the most difficult issues. So peace appears a very long way away.

Archive link for those who can't get past the paywall - https://archive.is/lSnSx

 

[zippy]

But the question remains, why won't the US send their tanks? It can't be to try and safeguard the tanks and possible weaknesses for future conflict because one thing we all learned from this conflict is that the war of the future will be fought with drones, many, many different types of drones.

One of the biggest problems with US military equipment is the cost of running and maintaining it. As well the cost and time required for training. Well it’s one of the excuses thrown about

 

[BBSA]

Now Russia will just take it and you can Bwahahaha some more. Reality and you feelings are two totally different things.

Russia is absolute useless, they can barely hold on to what they "annexed" just the other day.

 

[buka001]

Now Russia will just take it and you can Bwahahaha some more. Reality and you feelings are two totally different things.

Never took you for an ANC supporter. Why do you continue to vote for them?

 

[sefeddt]

??
Question was asked. Just posted what they tabled a year ago, that Ukraine was going to enter into negotions about, before Boris visited.

How do we discuss like this?

Here's the head of the Russian talk delegation. Russia serious ??

Vladimir Rostislavovich Medinsky is a Russian political figure, academic and publicist who served as the Minister of Culture from May 2012 to January 2020. He is a member of the General Council of the United Russia party.

Dissertations and accusation of plagiarism[edit]​

• 1997 – defended Doctoral dissertation in political science
• 1999 – defended Higher Doctoral dissertation in political science[7]
• June 2011 – defended Higher Doctoral dissertation in history in the Russian State Social University: "Problems of objectivity in the coverage of Russian history from the second half of the 15th to 17th centuries".

The third thesis of 2011 has been widely debated in the Russian media and a large number of fragments have been shown to bear a significant resemblance to existing academic works, which caused numerous accusations of plagiarism.[8][9]

On 23 May 2014, the Dissernet community, an informal group of academics and journalists concerned with dissertation plagiarism, declared to have found plagiarism in two previous dissertations by Medinsky, of 1997[10] and 1999.[11] According to Dissernet's expertise, in the first thesis 87 pages out of 120 have been borrowed from the thesis of Medinsky's scientific advisor S. A. Proskurin. In the second thesis, 21 pages textually coincide with other people's works.[7][12]

On 3 October 2017 the top Russian academic council recommended revoking Medinsky's 2011 doctorate.[13] However, on 20 October 2017 a committee of a government agency that oversees the awarding of higher academic degrees ruled in the minister's favour by 16 to 6.[14]

 

[Cosmik Debris]

At this point, I can only assume you have some kind of brain damage.

Good luck with that.

I'm out of this. You won't answer questions and your only arguments are assumptions and ad hominem.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

What...
Show me anywhere I posted where that is even remotely true. I just do not believe the simplified curated pro western narrative, and want people to question it.
Understanding Russia's action is far removed from jubilant support for death, on any side.

I repeat. You okes have zero principles or honesty. You will post links from legacy media as 'fact', yet are too lazy to watch, read or listen to anything that negates your narratives or clarifies context.

Yeah, Russel Brand is a geopolitical expert and not an entertainer...

 

[sefeddt]

Ukraine be very afraid if Belarus enter the conflict

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617534397946683398

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Sending more weapons just means the loss of more lives... they need to come to a peaceful agreement that is beneficial to both sides.

So that Russia can flood the place with soldiers and weapons and Ukraine can't defend itself?

 

[Matata]

Ukraine be very afraid if Belarus enter the conflict

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617534397946683398

5/10 Not representative of the Belarus army. The AT gunners did not do backflips after they made their shots.

 

[Matata]

How the russian domestic media portrays events in their newspapers. 23 Janaury 2023:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617497680418328576

 

[tetrasect]

How the russian domestic media portrays events in their newspapers. 23 Janaury 2023:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617497680418328576

What happened to the SMO?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

What Russia wanted a year ago:

1. Ukraine doesn't enter NATO and maintains a position of neutrality

Who is Russia to decide who a sovereign country decided to ally with?

What Russia wanted a year ago:

2. Crimea is recognised as a territory of Russia

It's not.

What Russia wanted a year ago:

3. Independence is granted to the people's republics of Donetsk and Lugansk

Would yo be happy with the Western Cape being granted independence?

What Russia wanted a year ago:

4. Ukraine demilitarises and surrenders any weapons which constitute a threat to Russia

They already gave up their nukes. How about Russia, who invaded ukraine, demilitarises so they won't do that again?

5. Ukraine goes through a process of denazification, which would essentially constitute a change of government based on Putin's previous words about the Ukrainian leadership.

The Jewish president of Ukraine is a Nazi? Any comment on Wagner?

6. Russian becomes the second official language of Ukraine and any laws which prohibit its use are repealed.

Who are you to decide what the languages of a country should be?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

??
Question was asked. Just posted what they tabled a year ago, that Ukraine was going to enter into negotions about, before Boris visited.

How do we discuss like this?

Boris visited after Russia invaded Ukraine after promising they weren't going to a week before.

Yo cannot negotiate with Russia.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Now Russia will just take it and you can Bwahahaha some more. Reality and you feelings are two totally different things.

Russia tried to take Ukraine in a 3 day special operation giggling gramps. It's now month 11 with more than double the number of Russians dead that the USA lost in Vietnam in 20 years.