Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 7

[Blu82]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617833630436556802

 

[MiW]

 

[zippy]

Prior to Feb 2022 most of NATO would never have allowed Ukraine to join NATO. Even Ukraine joining the EU was likely to be vetoed by some EU nations.

Even now I doubt there is 100% support in NATO for Ukraine to join NATO.

Using this as justification for Russia invading Ukraine is totally BS

 

[ToxicBunny]

Prior to Feb 2022 most of NATO would never have allowed Ukraine to join NATO. Even Ukraine joining the EU was likely to be vetoed by some EU nations.

Even now I doubt there is 100% support in NATO for Ukraine to join NATO.

Using this as justification for Russia invading Ukraine is totally BS

TBH, I think its way more complicated than that... Yes in their state prior to the Russian invasion they would probably have not been allowed to join NATO or the EU, but they were working with the EU to move more to the West and eventually they would have been allowed in... but it would have taken decades.

Now though, I think they're looking at a much faster onramp into the EU and NATO once they can remove Russia from their country.

 

[sefeddt]

Russia get's the right to tell what bodes well for them and what does not.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617833539759931395

 

[BBSA]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617839469155192834

 

[MiW]

Seems Russia tried air attacks

 

[ForceFate]

Seems Russia tried air attacks

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There's a report somewhere of 2 or 3 of the Ka-52 helicopters being shot down.

 

[sefeddt]

Seems Russia tried air attacks

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General Staff: Ukraine downs two Russian aircrafts, helicopter over past day.

The General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces reported on Jan. 24 that Ukraine's military shoot down two Russian Su-25 aircrafts, one Ka-52 helicopter, an Orlan-10 drone, and two guided air missiles Kh-59. Ukrainian forces also struck three temporary bases of

kyivindependent.com

 

[Kaapie]

Prior to Feb 2022 most of NATO would never have allowed Ukraine to join NATO. Even Ukraine joining the EU was likely to be vetoed by some EU nations.

Even now I doubt there is 100% support in NATO for Ukraine to join NATO.

Using this as justification for Russia invading Ukraine is totally BS

different article, different outlet

2014

It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne

Seumas Milne: The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all

www.theguardian.com

 

[sefeddt]

I fully expect France to summon the Russian ambassador to protest.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617872589728403456

 

[tetrasect]

"The main obstacle" to Ukraine's ascension to the alliance, F. Stephen Larrabee, a former Soviet specialist on the U.S. National Security Council wrote in 2011, "is not Russian opposition… but low public support for membership in Ukraine itself." Ukrainian support for joining NATO "is much lower in Ukraine in comparison to other states in Eastern Europe," he added, at just 22-25 percent overall.

By backing a far-right coup in Kiev, the US overcame the inconvenient hurdle of Ukrainian popular opinion.

Yeah cause nationalists love joining international alliances, coalitions and unions.

Top level kek.

 

[Kaapie]

here is some more 'kek' for you. from your lauded 'sources' before the flip flop.

7 year ago

The U.S and European Union may want to save Crimeans from themselves. But the Crimeans are happy right where they are.

One year after the annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula in the Black Sea, poll after poll shows that the locals there -- be they Ukrainians, ethnic Russians or Tatars are mostly all in agreement: life with Russia is better than life with Ukraine.

One Year After Russia Annexed Crimea, Locals Prefer Moscow To Kiev

Poll after poll proves U.S. and Europe wrong on Crimea's annexation by Russia last March.

www.forbes.com

 

[Matata]

I fully expect France to summon the Russian ambassador to protest.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617872589728403456

France be like :

 

[tetrasect]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617780726832807936

LOL

The fate of Wintershall’s Russian business is a sign of the plight facing western companies as they try to extract themselves from a pariah country under stringent international sanctions.

Plight? Trying to extract themselves?

Nope. That's BS. They selfishly stayed in Russia cause they were making money while sharing those profits with the Russian government, fully aware that the Russian government was using that money to kill Ukranian civilians.

And then the Russian government rewarded them by emptying their accounts and confiscating their properties.

And now they wanna cry about it?

Serves them fcking right. In fact they got off lightly.

 

[Matata]

This was interesting

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617866409211744256

Now there are also reports of air raid sirens again:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617864631036555266

Coincidence?

 

[tetrasect]

here is some more 'kek' for you. from your lauded 'sources' before the flip flop.

7 year ago

One Year After Russia Annexed Crimea, Locals Prefer Moscow To Kiev

Poll after poll proves U.S. and Europe wrong on Crimea's annexation by Russia last March.

www.forbes.com

Did Crimea join NATO? Or have you just lost the plot?

 

[Kaapie]

NO Russia did not join NATO. Crimea is one of the points you all love your propoganda checklists.

I will be here everyday dispelling the BS. No thanks needed.

 

[AstroTurf]

NO Russia did not join NATO. Crimea is one of the points you all love your propoganda checklists.

I will be here everyday dispelling the BS. No thanks needed.

Seems that you are dispensing more than you are dispelling.

 

[Cray]

NO Russia did not join NATO. Crimea is one of the points you all love your propoganda checklists.

I will be here everyday dispelling the BS. No thanks needed.

Your comments on this relating to the annexation..?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

According to the three memoranda,[5] Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia, and that they agreed to the following:

1. Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.