Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 7

[rietrot]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1620964510176788486

Meanwhile

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1620530992040800257

I found the real interview. You should not support these idiots that just rip off someone else's stuff and edit their own logo over it.
It seems good. The host is very pro Ukraine but at least more honest.

The entire channel seems to have good war content, haven't really started watching it. Just found it.

 

[rietrot]

Hahahaha...jirre. Robbing a 7-Eleven in Mitchell's Plain while wearing a Che t-shirt, doesn't make you a guerilla.

Stop talking kak please.

We have 7-11s? Chronically online syndrome. Take a break.

 

[rietrot]

I found the real interview. You should not support these idiots that just rip off someone else's stuff and edit their own logo over it.
It seems good. The host is very pro Ukraine but at least more honest.

The entire channel seems to have good war content, haven't really started watching it. Just found it.

This is another good interview I found interesting.
Guys does seem like a little bit of a shíttalker(style/way in which he talks), but I didn't think there was anything not factual.

Also (seemingly)honest pro Ukraine interview.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

We have 7-11s? Chronically online syndrome. Take a break.

Who's talking to you?

Put your tampon back in and spew some more nonsense re. Ukraine.

 

[rietrot]

Read up on the Budapest accords regarding Ukraine's Nuclear weapon situation. The only thing the US and Britain is doing by supplying arms to Ukraine is holding up on their end of the accords when Russia broke it.

I said nothing about nuclear weapons. Ukraine has non and will never have any. Irrelevant.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

We have 7-11s? Chronically online syndrome. Take a break.

 

[rietrot]

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Nice.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Nice.

Do I still need to take a break? Is it my chronically online syndrome that caused all these 7-Eleven's to suddenly appear in SA? Do we have 7-Eleven's ?

 

[Blu82]

 

[buka001]

I am at the point where either the West needs to directly intervene with their own militaries or just get the f-out.

This proxy war business is going to doom the region to a forever war.

Why no mention of Russia getting the F-Out?

The region is being condemned to a forever war by Russia. The support from NATO etc, is the what is helping Ukraine save itself from being colonised.

Vietnam would disagree with your proposal.

 

[buka001]

**pats the npcs on their head for being good little global citizens***

In case you haven't noticed, Russia hasn't gone anywhere. The current approach of dumping Western equipment in Ukraine isn't going to beat Russia, who while they might have inferior equipment, actually know how to use it.

Western leaders should either start contributing troops and pay the severe political cost for doing so, or they should gtfo. Half-a$$ed measures like what they are doing right now isn't just going to turn what is left of Eastern Ukraine into wasteland.

**pats the Russian Imperialist Supporter on his head for being a good Russian Propagandist**

Except for the large swathes of Ukrainian territory that Russia has lost? They certainly did go somewhere ... backwards out of Ukraine.

 

[buka001]

@buka001 this is one for you to explain.

14 tanks in a typical NATO tank Company, go back to sleep.

 

[konfab]

Why no mention of Russia getting the F-Out?

Because it is obvious they should get out, however they don't particularly want to do it. And the economic sanctions are doing squat.

The region is being condemned to a forever war by Russia. The support from NATO etc, is the what is helping Ukraine save itself from being colonised.

There are three outcomes.
1) The forever war where Ukraine gets aid and supplies from the West, but never any direct military support. The Ukranian military, even with all the non-direct support it has been receiving has not been able to push back Russia. I just don't see them being able to fully take advantage of the equipment that they have been receiving.
2) The West intervenes militarily and pushes Russia out.
3) The West pulls out and Ukraine negotiates a surrender and hands over part of the country.

1) Is where we are at right now.
2) Is the only way I think the conflict is going to get resolved with Ukraine's sovereignty intact.
3) Is what will happen after one or two election cycles of a forever war that the US is subsidising. Eventually people at home will be sick of it and a political candidate will see the opportunity offer a simple campaign message to end the war.

Vietnam would disagree with your proposal.

Vietnam is a perfect example. The US lost it, not because of military reasons, but because support for the war fell like a lead balloon back home as it had continued for far too long.

Russia isn't particularly well dug in with the locals and therefore it won't be able to mount an effective guerrilla campaign like what happened with Vietnam.

 

[Unhappy438]

**pats the npcs on their head for being good little global citizens***

 

[Unhappy438]

3) The West pulls out and Ukraine negotiates a surrender and hands over part of the country.

The Swiss newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung has offered an explanation for why German Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s decision to send much-awaited Leopard main battle tanks to Ukraine was so delayed, accompanied by chaotic messaging, and came so suddenly.

The decision, made on 24 January after months of Kyiv’s imploring for heavy weapons, unblocked a coalition of other countries to send their Leopards, the main battle tanks believed to be crucial for Ukraine to retake land occupied by the Russians. The countries were waiting for German permission to supply the German-made tanks.

Citing two German foreign policy politicians, who refused to be named because of the “explosive” information, the NZZ reports that in mid-January, US President Joe Biden instructed CIA chief William Burns to assess whether Kyiv and Moscow were willing to negotiate. Kyiv was offered peace for land, and Moscow – land for peace.

The “land” is said to have been about 20% of Ukrainian territory – which is currently what Russia occupies.

Both sides, the two politicians report, refused

Russia doesnt want some of Ukraine, they want all of it.

 

[rietrot]

Do I still need to take a break? Is it my chronically online syndrome that caused all these 7-Eleven's to suddenly appear in SA? Do we have 7-Eleven's ?

Lol it is funny that you are so triggered, seems like I hit a nerve. Relax dude.

 

[BBSA]

Russia doesnt want some of Ukraine, they want all of it.

This, and they will start their nonsense in another country in a few years time.

 

[Unhappy438]

This, and they will start their nonsense in another country in a few years time.

Indeed, also not to mention China will take notice and do the same thing. So allowing Russia to do what they want will only lead to further wars and wont bring peace.

 

[rietrot]

I found the real interview. You should not support these idiots that just rip off someone else's stuff and edit their own logo over it.
It seems good. The host is very pro Ukraine but at least more honest.

The entire channel seems to have good war content, haven't really started watching it. Just found it.

I've finished this now.
This is probably the best pro-ukraine interview I've seen. Very realistic about what you need to do if you want to actually win, the start were they talk about Wagner would probably be too much for most Ukraine simps that just wish NPC and don't really care.

 

[konfab]

For the 100th time, just because I don't deepthroat Zelensky doesn't mean I don't want Russia out the country.

If you want it clear. I think Western leaders should take the political hit now and start deploying troops and push Russia out the country. Russia has been f__king around for roughly a year now, they probably should start to find out.

If they don't do this, the political situation at home will eventually turn against Ukranian aid and Putin will get what he wants. Without Western support, Ukraine will get beaten into a surrender.