Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 7

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Blu82

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Hull lower meaning the area behind the tracks? So you've got 15mm plus tracks. Ammo is stored in hull upper.
Same place and old school RPG-7 hit and penetrated an M1 in Iraq. The M1 was a lucky hit but I can mount M20s on a Ma Duce belt and significantly increase my chance of a lucky hit.
 

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When was the last time you saw a Ukrainian tank doing literally anything?

The only Russian tanks you've seen destroyed are ones from MANPADS.

You know, the greatest threat to modern tanks.

A Leopard 1 can literally be destroyed by a 20mm to the side.

The whole doctrine of Leo1 was speed and zero armour.

Have you seen speedy tank movements so far this war?
Any moment now the last Russian will die and those tanks will race into st. Petersburg and beyond
 

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When was the last time you saw a Ukrainian tank doing literally anything?

The only Russian tanks you've seen destroyed are ones from MANPADS.

You know, the greatest threat to modern tanks.

A Leopard 1 can literally be destroyed by a 20mm to the side.

The whole doctrine of Leo1 was speed and zero armour.

Have you seen speedy tank movements so far this war?
 

Blu82

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When was the last time you saw a Ukrainian tank doing literally anything?

The only Russian tanks you've seen destroyed are ones from MANPADS.

You know, the greatest threat to modern tanks.

A Leopard 1 can literally be destroyed by a 20mm to the side.

The whole doctrine of Leo1 was speed and zero armour.

Have you seen speedy tank movements so far this war?
Might want to get your acronyms straight. Any armoured vehicle will shrug off a direct hit by a MANPAD. Your best bet for damage against an armoured vehicle is its warhead failing at it becoming a kinetic projectile. The typical MANPAD warhead is sideways or frontal fragmentation pattern to kill aircraft while an ATGM carries a HEAT charge which generates a forward blast of molten metal to kill tanks.
 

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You say this yet we've seen over and over again almost every engagement involving Russian tanks and Ukrainian tanks directly seems to end in Ukrainian tanks smoking.

Why have we not seen a proper Ukrainian T-72 platoon in 2 months? Where are they all?
We see a lot of BMPs. No tanks.


Literally every engagement where Russian tanks have been destroyed, has been solely the man on the ground with MANPATS.
And no, it's not in the open. The majority of Russian tanks have been destroyed in close quarters in villages and built up areas.
It is a similar pattern to WW2 then where tanks rarely fought tanks and mostly fortifications. It was one of the primary reasons the US Sherman wasn’t up gunned to more effectively kill Panthers or Tigers. They fought them so rarely and the high velocity planned gun will have offered no advantage against the typical targets they were engaging.
 
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