Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 7

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Vorastra said:
Do I? Interesting. Last I checked, I was the guy who want people to be able to say and do literally whatever they want, and you were the one in the US politics threads over the last few years who didn't.

So Israel and America fascist confirmed. Sweet.

Or, wait no, but America makes movies and music you like. So it's OK.
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Sure, I recall someone having a penchant for vehicles mowing down protestors you didn't agree with.
 
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buka001 said:
Cope lol

Sure, I'll start the coping when the EU invades Russia and annexes territory.
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Saying cope purely because I said cope is pretty cringe.

It makes me happy that you can't reconcile my point with your world view though. And you know you can't. :sneaky:
 
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capd said:
How many NATO troops are in Ukraine, and how many would you say have died?
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https://www.bbc.com/news/62974506

War in Ukraine: Fact-checking Russian claims that Nato troops are fighting in Ukraine
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"There is no evidence of Nato ground forces participating in Ukraine," says Edward Arnold at the Royal United Services Institute (Rusi), a defence and security think tank.
"Nor of Nato commanders directing Ukrainian units on the battlefield," he adds. "There is also a very low likelihood of this happening in the future as Nato seeks to mitigate escalation risks."
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Sure, I recall someone having a penchant for vehicles mowing down protestors you didn't agree with.
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Wait when. You mean the ones that were blocking the road and then ATTACKED the guy in the truck by breaking his window with rocks and trying to pull him out?

Or was it the one where the police car was surrounded by protesters, then again, had rocks thrown at the window then a protester got onto the car so the car sped away and the fool rag-dolled like a sack of sht?

Those ones? That's what I recall.
 
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Remember when people here believed that the GHOST OF KYYYYYYYYYYIV was real.

 
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Yeah man I'm gonna back you up 100% on this one. We have disagreed on many many things over the years on this forum, especially politically. There is no way in any version of any universe that you are "Left".

Trollrot has lost his mind, the plot and his memory.

Must say I fully respect your views on these events, glad to see there is some good decency on the right still.
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I'm sure there are still many on the right who is against Putin’s madness. They also understand that it is important to support Ukraine.

Unfortunately it is the nutters on the extremes who usually makes the most noise, and the silent majority in the middle is not heard.
 
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Vorastra said:
No silly, they aren't NATO troops. They just happened to be soldiers that somehow got leave and now do mercenary work for Ukraine.
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Literally the people that you people POST ON THIS FORUM whenever they die about how brave they were to go fight in Ukraine.
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An American or British private citizen choosing to volunteer to fight in Ukraine is not a NATO soldier.
 
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I'm sure there are still many on the right who is against Putin’s madness. They also understand that it is important to support Ukraine.
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The vast majority of the right don't support Ukraine at all. They literally don't care about Ukraine.

What they care about is money being wasted on Ukraine.
 
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My reaction at those who though Russia was going to win in weeks.
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That was pretty dumb wasn't it.

Just like those people that somehow hold both the idea that Ukraine is winning and will push Russia out, yet somehow is in a perpetual state of begging about how dire Ukraine's situation is.
 
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Who died and made you their spokesperson?
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Me. I am actually the boss of the right.

Just like @BBSA made a sweeping generalisation about how sure he is, which you don't seem to have a problem with.

The issue is that if you look at almost every big right-wing pundit, and almost every single small right-wing follower, they all seem to have one thing in common.

Not giving a flying sht about Ukraine and constantly complaining about money being wasted in Ukraine.

The only people on the right who seem to care are the ones in Congress who think they'll get some political points out of it.

Even the left seems to only partially care because it's the current thing.
 
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That was pretty dumb wasn't it.

Just like those people that somehow hold both the idea that Ukraine is winning and will push Russia out, yet somehow is in a perpetual state of begging about how dire Ukraine's situation is.
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I am under no illusion that Ukraine will magically win and reclaim Crimea etc. It will stalemate, as it is now. All I can hope for is a Kherson like offensive to push Russia further back out of the Eastern fronts, back to the original borders.

The next 3 months will be significant on that front. Russia planning for an offensive, how effective it is, will determine whether Ukraine can mount a reasonable counter offensive or not. (All of which is obvious, but just stating the point.)
 
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I am under no illusion that Ukraine will magically win and reclaim Crimea etc. It will stalemate, as it is now. All I can hope for is a Kherson like offensive to push Russia further back out of the Eastern fronts, back to the original borders.

The next 3 months will be significant on that front. Russia planning for an offensive, how effective it is, will determine whether Ukraine can mount a reasonable counter offensive or not. (All of which is obvious, but just stating the point.)
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Russia will never let Ukraine push them out of the only actual objective they've been working on.

Completely cutting Ukraine's importance to the EU and the US. AKA all those gas fields and mineral deposits.

Notice Ukraine seems to constantly focus on that region too, because they know no one cares if they don't get that area back.

I hope you didn't think that the EU and US actually cared about the Ukrainian people lmao
 
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