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Cray
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Russo-Ukrainian War - 2022 Edition - Part 7
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And your point is?
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It offloaded something. So the ANC still likes calling the Russian's baas.First thing that jumped out, as mentioned by one of the comments is that when it arrived the cranes were in the stowed position. Later pictures (assume the next day) one crane is extended and looks like hatches open.
Draft of the vessel indicates its fairly empty. Will be interesting to note the level when it leaves Simonstown.
*puts tinfoil hat back in the drawer*
They may be loading some heavy pallets with spares or equipment for repairs, if they were indeed in distress.
AIS was also turned off
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Clip seems unrelated.
Anyway...
Was just scrolling MyBB and thinking about that one time your guy got Otto Warmbier's corpse back from NK, and the other time when he gave up Abdul Ghani Baradar *and* 5000 Taliban fighters for... and check me if I'm wrong on this won't ya, pal...
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
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Glad to see you are a proud defender of imprisonment without trial. I am not surprised tbh.
Defence Regulation 18B - Wikipedia
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You can always find a good reason to violate individual rights arbitrarily.
Lol never change.
"arbitrarily"
World War 2 was anything but arbitrary.
The invasion of Ukraine is also not an arbitrary occurrence.
But, you had to diminish the significance of war, so your fallacy could make a weak attempt at trying to establish a point.
Alas, it did not. As you will see in your link, as the risk of a Nazi invasion of the UK subsided, so did the enforcement of that temporary legislation.
It is almost as if the legislation was linked to something ... I wonder what that could be.
I wonder if that link, gives us a clue as to why such a legislation was enacted.
Not sure of accuracy but resourcefulness it's up there. Ukraine have shown the ability to adapt.
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These modifications have been done since Syria so they are not new. The actually might me more accurate that the helicopter version of this attack.
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Shopping centers in Russia are going bankrupt, I guess it's better for the owners if they burn down and claim insurance.
Russia should be kicked out
www.pravda.com.ua
Russia initiated the convening of the UN Security Council on 9 December to discuss the supply of weapons to Ukraine by the West.
Source: Ukrinform with reference to the Secretariat of the Security Council
Details: The meeting will be held on Friday at 15:00 EST (22:00 Kyiv time).
Russia convenes UN Security Council over Western arms supplies to Ukraine
Russia initiated the convening of the UN Security Council on 9 December to discuss the supply of weapons to Ukraine by the West.
www.pravda.com.ua
Russia initiated the convening of the UN Security Council on 9 December to discuss the supply of weapons to Ukraine by the West.
Source: Ukrinform with reference to the Secretariat of the Security Council
Details: The meeting will be held on Friday at 15:00 EST (22:00 Kyiv time).
Putin can use 100% of Russia's budget for the war and it still not going to fix RuA problems
Thanks for the morning funnies.LOL. Cope harder.
Russia is losing. Their production capacity has gone down the toilet along with their entire economy. In the meanwhile Ukraine is getting support from most of the world.
Russia uses their oldest stock first, which is why at the beginning of the war we saw missiles which were made in the early 60's. The fact that we now see the newest production date missiles being used means Russia has already used most of it's stockpiles. And them making a couple missiles a week is not gonna change the tide of war.
And need I remind you of the absolutely staggering equipment losses Russia has suffered?
There is absolutely zero chance of Russia winning this war if they couldn't even win when they had mountains of equipment and Ukraine had nothing. I mean they haven't even managed to destroy a single HIMARS.
Russian oil price is the lowest it's been since 2020 and gas prices have already dropped by half.
You're living in cuckoo land it's time to snap out of it.
You believe everything the media tells you? I suppose there really were WMD's in Iraq if I have to listen to you. You obviously have no idea how establishing supply lines work. Do you think the most recent prisoner swop was because Putin missed his braai-buddy? The man is a weapons dealer so guess what he is going to be doing. Russia is producing their own missiles DESPITE sanctions. They are already putting in place steady supply lines of materials they need and the longer sanctions go on the more robust those supply lines will become.
As for most of the world supporting Ukraine, you must have your head in the sand. It's only 13% of the world and that assumes that it is 100% of the populations of those countries that support Ukraine. As I mentioned, the citizens in those countries are already asking why.
Yes, the price of Russian oil has dropped as well as the price of gas but a new gas pipeline just opened to China yesterday so larger volumes will be piped shortly. It doesn't matter if the price drops as long as you still make a profit and can compensate with higher volume sales. Then this will mitigate the price caps and lower prices. Let me explain: if I sell 100L of oil at $9/L profit for a total of $900 and then the prices drops and I now only make $4,50/L profit but I can double my output I will still make $900. You need to also take a look at how Russian oil is being resold in Asia at the moment as there are third parties that are almost dancing in the streets due to the massive profits they making by the fat discount. So over time you will see the demand for Russian oil increase again and Russia will still continue to make juicy profits because most of this oil is shipped via pipeline to the Asian markets so the cost overhead for increased volumes is still minimal.
And don't believe all these articles of the Kremlin politicians that have escape plans. Each official always has a bug-out bag and plan just in case. It's par for the course over there. So this is just trying to paint a picture that the leadership are planning on bailing, more than likely to try and get that message to the Russian people to try and cause an internal uprising.
The big key that people often forget is the Russia has still not declared this a war and if the day comes that they do it is a major game changer as then wartime measures kick in along with martial law in Russia. The entire Russia economy will transform to wartime economy so where all those abandoned factories are sitting idle due to the pull out of western companies they will suddenly be fired up again to start producing for the Russian wartime efforts. This will only happen if really needed though and only after dependable supply lines are secured and stockpiles of certain materials replenished to support scaled-up productions. Russia knows it would mean a time of suffering for themselves as well so they would need to first drum up massive internal support by its populace before considering that. This is where the Ukrainian strikes are actually helping Putin and the gang.
The simple reality is that the longer this conflict continues the more it swings into Russia's favour as support for Ukraine will dwindle and foreign military support will fade. A lot of countries have used this as a nice tool to get rid of some old military equipment and replace it with some newer versions but once that is done they are not going to ship their new toys to someone else.
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10/10 fan fiction. You should publish this, maybe even expand it into a novel. In the alternative history genre.Thanks for the morning funnies.
You believe everything the media tells you? I suppose there really were WMD's in Iraq if I have to listen to you. You obviously have no idea how establishing supply lines work. Do you think the most recent prisoner swop was because Putin missed his braai-buddy? The man is a weapons dealer so guess what he is going to be doing. Russia is producing their own missiles DESPITE sanctions. They are already putting in place steady supply lines of materials they need and the longer sanctions go on the more robust those supply lines will become.
As for most of the world supporting Ukraine, you must have your head in the sand. It's only 13% of the world and that assumes that it is 100% of the populations of those countries that support Ukraine. As I mentioned, the citizens in those countries are already asking why.
Yes, the price of Russian oil has dropped as well as the price of gas but a new gas pipeline just opened to China yesterday so larger volumes will be piped shortly. It doesn't matter if the price drops as long as you still make a profit and can compensate with higher volume sales. Then this will mitigate the price caps and lower prices. Let me explain: if I sell 100L of oil at $9/L profit for a total of $900 and then the prices drops and I now only make $4,50/L profit but I can double my output I will still make $900. You need to also take a look at how Russian oil is being resold in Asia at the moment as there are third parties that are almost dancing in the streets due to the massive profits they making by the fat discount. So over time you will see the demand for Russian oil increase again and Russia will still continue to make juicy profits because most of this oil is shipped via pipeline to the Asian markets so the cost overhead for increased volumes is still minimal.
And don't believe all these articles of the Kremlin politicians that have escape plans. Each official always has a bug-out bag and plan just in case. It's par for the course over there. So this is just trying to paint a picture that the leadership are planning on bailing, more than likely to try and get that message to the Russian people to try and cause an internal uprising.
The big key that people often forget is the Russia has still not declared this a war and if the day comes that they do it is a major game changer as then wartime measures kick in along with martial law in Russia. The entire Russia economy will transform to wartime economy so where all those abandoned factories are sitting idle due to the pull out of western companies they will suddenly be fired up again to start producing for the Russian wartime efforts. This will only happen if really needed though and only after dependable supply lines are secured and stockpiles of certain materials replenished to support scaled-up productions. Russia knows it would mean a time of suffering for themselves as well so they would need to first drum up massive internal support by its populace before considering that. This is where the Ukrainian strikes are actually helping Putin and the gang.
The simple reality is that the longer this conflict continues the more it swings into Russia's favour as support for Ukraine will dwindle and foreign military support will fade. A lot of countries have used this as a nice tool to get rid of some old military equipment and replace it with some newer versions but once that is done they are not going to ship their new toys to someone else.
But in all seriousness do you even have a single source to back up any of many many claims you made?
Cause this very much reads like you are thinking with your feels...
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I was going to suggest that he sell that post to RT but I reckon even they would find it a bit far-fetched.
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Exactly the same reasons could be given for:
Internment of Japanese people in the US in WW2 (Those filthy Japs cannot be trusted and will form a 5th column)
Internment of Afrikaners in the second Boer war (Those filthy Boers cannot be trusted and will resupply our enemies)
Internment of foreign citizens in Guantanamo bay (Those filthy terrorists cannot be trusted and will form terrorists cells)
Internment of Uighur citizens in China (Those filthy Muslims are terrorists and cannot be trusted)
Here is a hint for you: detention without trial is a bad thing and shouldn't be done. Ditto for banning political parties.
If an individual is actually colluding with an enemy, then charge them with treason and allow them to defend themselves against the charges (obviously this won't work in $hitholes like China, but that is the process in Western democracies. ).
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